Posts by rebel8

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Shaklee and Long Distance Telephone Plans

by Funchback in

i just had a random recall about jws and what they used to peddle.. in my area of pennsylvania (usa), there was a brother who used to be the shaklee dealer.. there was also a brother who owned his own landscaping company and sold long distance phone plans.

in fact, i remember 3 brothers who sold lond distance plans.. did anyone else experience these products or others?

just wondering.. brian.

rebel8

Shaklee, definitely. It was a big thing among dubs because they didn't trust evidence-based medicine.

Shaklee became a substitute for real medical care for me for a while, with near deadly results.

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Was it Adam who altered his own DNA so that sicknesses & consequent death would be passed on to his offspring?

by deegee in

the blame for mankind's sicknesses/diseases and consequent death has been placed squarely on the shoulders of adam:.

romans 5:12, 17 - 19:"therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—for if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man.......consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people........for just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners........".

1 corinthians 15: 21, 22:"for since death came through a man........... for as in adam all die.......".

rebel8

It could have been all the inbreeding between Cain and his sister, and between their children, and between their cousins. LOL

But I think the dubbies have a dented Jell-O mold creation myth that should take care of this conundrum, if the dented mold=DNA.

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Why take it personally?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

a random thought occurred to me today.. i actually feel genuinely sorry for witnesses who cut contact with ones they feel are no longer "spiritual" .. they do this based not on anything that the person has actually done to them personally, but due to an imposed view from the society.. it must play havoc with their inner conscience as they try and reconcile that the person they cut off has not actually done anything to harm them, but they have to view them as evil.. it reminded me of this thread i started some time back.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5751633187176448/all-my-friends-organisation.

rebel8

In life, we cut ties with those we think are toxic to us but maybe not in an extreme way like the jobos do.

Yes, I get it, the leaders are responsible for manipulating people. They have a lot of guilt.

But there is personal responsibility too.Because of the psychological manipulation, good people do bad things, but if they are truly good and strong, they will eventually do the right thing. IMHO.

I did.

I was physically abused for disobedience to the cult many times, and financially abused to the point of having no escape, and psychologically manipulated from childhood on.

But I did let myself acknowledge that goodness and truth have nothing to fear from exposure to other views.

I shun toxic people to this very day, and there is nothing wrong with that.

The difference between me and dubs is that I have an honest definition of "toxic" now. It took a ton of courage and risk to figure it out on my own and escape from the situation that required me to shun the wrong people.

Come to think of it, I have never had an opportunity to apologize for shunning anybody. I am very sorry.

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Amazon Charity

by mikeypants in

boring post below, fyi.. i was with extended family this weekend and the conversation drifted to contributions and donations.

they said amazon will donate a percentage of your purchase to a charity of choice.

i guess someone put in jdumbs and it went through.

rebel8

Wow, nobody is interested in this? I am surprised.

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Amazon Charity

by mikeypants in

boring post below, fyi.. i was with extended family this weekend and the conversation drifted to contributions and donations.

they said amazon will donate a percentage of your purchase to a charity of choice.

i guess someone put in jdumbs and it went through.

rebel8

If you go to Amazon Smile, log in, and pick "change your charity" in the Your Account page, you can search for charities.

WTBS of Brooklyn is there, as are many assembly halls and congregations.

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Amazon Charity

by mikeypants in

boring post below, fyi.. i was with extended family this weekend and the conversation drifted to contributions and donations.

they said amazon will donate a percentage of your purchase to a charity of choice.

i guess someone put in jdumbs and it went through.

rebel8

https://org.amazon.com/agreement

AmazonSmile Participation Agreement
By creating a charity administration account on the org.amazon.com website ("Organization Site") or otherwise participating in or seeking to participate in the Program, you agree to these conditions. Please read them carefully.
"Eligible Organizations" are those charitable organizations that we determine:
are qualified under Section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service Code;
are public charitable organizations and not private foundations;
are not supporting organizations, unless identified specifically as Type I, Type II, or functionally integrated Type III supporting organizations (as defined in the U.S. IRS Code);
are headquartered in the United States (the 50 States and the District of Columbia);
are in good standing in their state of incorporation and in the states where they are authorized to do business;
do not engage in, support, encourage, or promote:
intolerance, discrimination or discriminatory practices based on race, sex, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation, or age;
hate, terrorism, or violence;
money laundering;
other illegal, deceptive, or misleading activities; and

are otherwise not in violation of the terms of this Participation Agreement.

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Amazon Charity

by mikeypants in

boring post below, fyi.. i was with extended family this weekend and the conversation drifted to contributions and donations.

they said amazon will donate a percentage of your purchase to a charity of choice.

i guess someone put in jdumbs and it went through.

rebel8

Send Us a Tip

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https://www.splcenter.org/20160211/religious-liberty-and-anti-lgbt-right

The hardline religious-right groups that have long relied on the use of demonizing falsehoods to justify discrimination against LGBT people

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Amazon Charity

by mikeypants in

boring post below, fyi.. i was with extended family this weekend and the conversation drifted to contributions and donations.

they said amazon will donate a percentage of your purchase to a charity of choice.

i guess someone put in jdumbs and it went through.

rebel8

You may be on to something. We could report them for being ineligible--they definitely promote intolerance and hate--just take a look at their website's statements about homosexuality, for example.

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/chpf/pd/ref=smi_se_saas_lpd_spd

Organizations must be public charitable organizations that are registered and in good standing with the IRS as a 501(c)(3) to be eligible to participate. Eligible charitable organizations must also be located in one of the 50 U.S. states or the District of Columbia. Organizations that engage in, support, encourage, or promote intolerance, hate, terrorism, violence, money laundering, or other illegal activities are not eligible to participate. Amazon relies on the U.S. Office of Foreign Assets Control and the Southern Poverty Law Center to determine which organizations fall into these groups. Charitable organizations must also adhere to the AmazonSmile Participation Agreement to maintain eligibility. Charitable organizations may choose not to participate in AmazonSmile at any time. Although we aim to include only charitable organizations that are in good standing and do not engage in any of the activities described above, we cannot guarantee the good standing and/or conduct of any charitable organization.

Charitable Organizations that Become Ineligible
These occurrences are relatively rare. If your selected charitable organization becomes ineligible due to a change in IRS standing or another violation of the program participation agreement...

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Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response (ASMR)

by Simon in

i stumbled across something the other day that made me sit up because it seemed to perfectly describe a feeling i experience from time to time that apparently isn't uncommon.. it's called autonomous sensory meridian response or "asmr" and is a kind of tingly feeling on/in your head.

you can read about it here:.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/autonomous_sensory_meridian_response.

rebel8

Simon, did you recently acquire Tupperware from a garage sale?

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JW's and the forgotten Jesus

by LevelThePlayingField in

so as i have been waking up more and more over the past 3 years...i keep telling myself i'm fully awake and then i wake up more, but that's a different thread.

but anyway, i've noticed a lot lately that the wt does not mention jesus or christ very much in their literature and neither to jw's in their conversations.

they mainly talk about jehovah.

rebel8

What punkofnice said.

In the end, I believe most people will realize that one invisible bearded sky man--whether he be the daddy or the son--is just as imaginary as all the rest.

No religion is superior to the other in terms of accuracy of doctrine.

That is the real truth--it may be scary to accept it, but it's actually quite freeing and centering. Not scary at all.