I remember a study saying, "I have never seen so much social activity focused on food. I mean, you can't dance, you can't listen to music...so boring. All that's left is eating. And every jw get-together is an enormous buffet of fattening food."
Posts by rebel8
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by zeb into show respects for the older bro who died.. first thing i noticed.
the noise!..
jw never learn to sit and do so quietly.
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Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?
by Cassaruby in"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
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Irregular to meetings, can I partake in memorial?
by Squekylive inhi friends .
i don't believe in jw doctrines anymore but because of family i have to be a jw for now.. i am not regular to meetings, and don't answer in meeting, but i report some hours so i remain as active jw now.. .
congregation knows that i am not spiritual and i don't talk to people and i don't care what they think about me.. now, i believe it's important to observe lord's supper as a christian as per john 6:53, so in the coming memorial if i attend i want to partake in the communion,.. i believe it is a sin to pass the bread and wine inspite of knowing it's flesh and blood of jesus.. it's like rejecting jesus.. so i want to partake.. but i dont consider i am anointed etc.
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rebel8
To support it by attending and then be disruptive when you attend? Totally your choice. It may do you some personal good by giving you closure or venting your feelings in a symbolic act.
If you plan to still attend meetings to stay in good standing with the dubs or family, then partaking will put a stop to that goal.
The best ultimate goal is to shed religion.
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How to believe you deserve to relax
by rebel8 ini was brainwashed to believe you generally shouldn't relax much.. demons can enter you if you meditate or even relax your brain too much for one second.
always be on guard.. scriptures criticizing laziness were repeated often.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/laziness "be kind to yourself" and all that.. you need to strenuously exert yourself for jehoopla and you're worthless if you don't.. most forms of fun were extinguished.
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I was brainwashed to believe you generally shouldn't relax much.
- Demons can enter you if you meditate or even relax your brain too much for one second. Always be on guard.
- Scriptures criticizing laziness were repeated often. https://www.openbible.info/topics/laziness "Be kind to yourself" and all that.
- You need to strenuously exert yourself for jehoopla and you're worthless if you don't.
- Most forms of fun were extinguished. Don't do fun charity work, it shows weak faith in jehoover to solve the problems of the world. Don't like music, it has demonic lyrics and backward masking. Don't dance, it leads to immorality. Only kingdumb smelodies and bible games are worthwhile. blah blah blah
- The purpose of fun is to rest your body so you can get back at that pioneering. That means you need to budget your time for relaxing and limit it.
As irrational as that all is, I still have a hard time totally relaxing. I start to get antsy if I've got little to do for >1 day--on vacations, I need a schedule and need to fill my brain up with interesting things. If I just lay around, I find it hard to concentrate at work, and I want my mental edge.
I am trying to figure out if this is just how I am (authentic self) or if I actually believe I do not deserve to relax too much. I suspect it's a little bit of both.
Anybody else experiencing this?
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Walking away will get you D/Fed
by Drifting Away insomeone just told my wife, that those who are just leaving organization or not going anymore will be dfed, has anyone read that or heard of that?
i have seen nothing of that, and according to jackson at royal commission, we are free to go as we please...
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rebel8
They can df anyone they want, for any reason or no reason at all. There is no law restricting this. (If I am wrong, please post a link to the law.)
The circulation of this rumor repeatedly over the years is a control technique in itself.
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Watchtower and Theseus' Paradox
by jwabuse.com incame across this today researching something for work, and thought it was an interesting thought when applied to wt.
with so many fundamental changes and revisions, can they even be correctly viewed as what they are perceived as by active jws?
if your baptism was an oath of loyalty to the organization, which organization?
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oops, I clicked dislike accidentally
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You wake up one morning and see
by A Believer inthe un has banned religion.
what are you're thoughts?.
also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.
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Trump has tricked the xian fundies to believe he is on their side. And he seems to be acting as though he is now, because they got him elected.
If anything, religion is becoming more and more powerful--it is expected to influence government policy in extreme & illegal ways in the near future.
The dubs I know are all about the Tea Party. I bet you those who did vote, voted for Trump, and those who didn't vote, would have voted for The Orange One. I heard an evangelist preaching at the coffee shop that it is unbiblical for Clinton to be President because she is a woman and she even wears pants! That's how dubs think too.
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54 year old Jw pedophile molests 14yr old jw girl.
by notjustyet inneed someone to correct the article to let the readers know "it's not a church,.. it's a kingdom hall!!".
please share and comment on their fb page to get some info out there.
https://www.facebook.com/sunherald/posts/10157904826940532.
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rebel8
This was statutory rape. The thread title seems a bit off.
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My Dad wants to study with me
by BlackWolf inso my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.
the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.
he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.
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I don't know if it's a personality thing or what. A person can only have one personality, so I have no idea what it's like to have another. For me, I need to be honest. It is a need I feel in the core of myself.
I was honest about my doubts. I had to do that prep thing with the elder and I was honest then that I wasn't sure this was thee truth.
I was honest during the ass-embly when they had you do the vows. I said 'no' to a few of them, IIRC.
They dunked me anyways, even though I was still a teen and frankly stating to my jw parent, elder and ass-embly attendant that I wasn't sure. But I still feel good that I was honest. In the end, it is one thing they can't ever take away from you, even if they control all other aspects of you.
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Fade Advice Please
by Zeds Dead ini got reinstated in the last month and had my record cards sent to a new congregation.
i went to a few meetings until i heard the cards had been sent and now i am looking to do a complete fade, no longer go at all.
the new congregation does not know me well and further away from where i live so i am hoping they will give up trying to make contact quickly.. any advice on do's and dont's and what to expect?.
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Chronic fatigue syndrome
Seriously, that's a good idea.
I know a woman who remained in good standing without attending meetings and FS for a super long time, and her dad remained MS in good standing too. Her relatives even said she was faking it to get out of jw stuff, but really this chick did not leave the house much. I guess if that or being an active dubbie are your only 2 choices...
