Which he says "It reflects your spirituality" "If another wittness saw you, they would know you are weak"
"Beards are ok in countries where it is customary."=wts doublespeak
Posts by rebel8
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Talk to my Dad about beards.
by LovingLifeNow inso i spoke to my elder dad the other day, and he asked if i still am sporting a beard.
i said yes, then i said, "i thought the society said its ok to have a neat trimmed beard now?
" he said "no, no, no..if you read the article , it says in countries where it is accepted" so my response was "ummm, its pretty accepted here in america"..which he says "it reflects your spirituality" "if another wittness saw you, they would know you are weak"...i was like, "ok, i don't get it, and i follow christ/god, not men..." then he said in his hall" if a brother came in with a beard , he would not have privelages" then i just gave up, and tried to change the subject..ugggggggggg if these people would just listen to themselves , they would see the sillyness of there teachings...
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rebel8
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If a person is transgender and gets saved what will they go to heaven as?
by Nikorasu95 ini know this is a stupid question because the answer is obvious, but if a person was born a male and gets transgender surgery to turn into female will that person go to heaven as a male or female if they died saved?
i think they will go to heaven with the gender they were born with.
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rebel8
There is a question that must be settled before the transgender question can be answered:
What evidence is there proving a heavenly afterlife exists?
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How ballroom dancing helped our exit
by Finally Left injust wanted to say hello and thank you for all of your comments.
when i finally figured out this was not the truth it was nice to know i wasn't the only one - it was a surprise to learn how many there are.
february was my last month of service after 43 active years.
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rebel8
Welcome!
You can see why the borganization emphasizes love bombing and focus on 'discouraged ones'--the lack of social support expedites the exit.
They criticize those who leave because of alleged 'personality conflicts', which are really examples of jws being cold and unloving. Think about it though.
The reason many of these people joined in the first place is not because they think, "Ooooh! I've been dying to join a laughed-at cult so I can't celebrate holidays or receive blood transfusions!" No, they joined in spite of those rules because the love bombing was so effective. Take away the love and you are left with the doctrines.
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Can we talk confidentially?
by wheelwithinwheel inthe lot video shows what most elder’s offices are like.
actually it a pretty well-equipped one and with the video context is, without a doubt, org-approved.
but let’s face it.
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rebel8
I am fascinated by the stories about the forced sale of the bakery and the disabled young man watching the reaction of the family members to a DF announcement.
It is so interesting the kinds of shit the cult causes.
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Spiritual Welfare
by wheelwithinwheel inthis year’s “don’t give up” convention encourages theocratic welfare.
brother pioneer is doing a lot of carting and having trouble making ends meet.
his landlord doesn’t get it and decides to evict him and his wife.. .
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rebel8
I have nothing else to say that hasn't been said, but I'll say it anyway.
someone in your congregation who is putting Jehovah first but suffering financial difficulties under Satan's system
Imagine your neighbor comes to you and complains about his kid. The kid doubled up and graduated early from high school so he wouldn't have to do schoolwork for the final year. Then he decided his permanent life plan is to have a part time job and use his salary on gas, driving around the neighborhood, knocking on complete strangers' doors to sell magazine subscriptions for charities (no commission or pay). He is able-bodied but just chooses this lifestyle.
And then he says it's the devil's fault he is struggling financially.
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Is a born-in brought up in a JW home like being a child inmate being raised in prison?
by Still Totally ADD ini bring up this subject because of all the restrictions children have to endure in the jw cult.
they are made prisoners of mind and body.
being forced to do things that are not natural for children to do.
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rebel8
I was a child during the 70s/80s apostasy scare. Back then they were so hardcore.
They would tell us demons will enter your brain if you daydream--the only way to prevent that is to constantly think about their publications. This scared me and I tried to comply. I would say silent prayers while walking down the hallway or riding the bus because I was afraid Satan would take that moment of mental idleness as an opportunity to possess me.
This and many other aspects of their teachings created a mental prison.
What a sick thing to do to a child or any person.
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rebel8
In the past, I have posted on websites like that regarding the Society's request to not make things like that and how obedience is required. (I find focusing on adherence to their rules is a great way to highlight how the religion creates an intolerable lifestyle, especially when followed fully.)
Also, it would be beneficial to current jws to have this material removed.
I just went there to do that and noticed these are free--still not ok per wts rules, but may not end up getting a DMCA takedown notice.
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A JW explains Blood Fractions
by OrphanCrow ini was looking around from some information on the wt's stance concerning the use of stem cells, and i came across this article on a defending jehovah's witnesses blog.. rather than informing the reader all that much about stem cells, the author diverts the conversation into a discussion of "blood fractions" (*note: the term "blood fractions" appears to be another one of those wt bloodspeak terms coined by the wt.
"blood components" or "blood products" are the terms used more frequently by the medical world.
"fractions" implies tiny amounts).
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rebel8
Logically, as blood is broken down, at some point the components logically cease to be blood. If this logic was not correct then EVERY molecule which had ever been part of blood would still be considered blood and could not be ingested to eternity. Such a view would be unreasonable and completely illogical.
No, it's not unreasonable or illogical. Blood products were directly derived from blood, not metabolized or decomposed and absorbed into something else that was then consumed.
Also, some of these products have a lower safety rating...so which is it? Either you are taking credit for your 100% abstinence doctrine resulting in protection from HIV, or you're not.
We can illustrate this with someone who used blood products to fertilize their fruit trees. Now, would it be hypocritical to buy and eat the fruit just because it contains some of the molecules from the blood? That would be unreasonable and completely illogical
Seriously, what the actual....
They DID ban use of blood-based garden fertilizers and eating the produce grown with it! This activity fell into the category of storing and then using blood, which was a direct violation of doctrine.
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Mass walk out during convention
by rebel8 injust dreaming this will happen at a convention.
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http://abcnews.go.com/politics/notre-dame-students-walk-mike-pence-commencement-speech/story?id=47545854.
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rebel8
Just dreaming this will happen at a convention.
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Laws in the 1000 year kingdom?
by CitizenofEarth inhello there.. tried to bring this up with my family.
didnt go well - they cling on to the utopia that the org paints, so i am gonna put this topic to your attention.
i would love to hear what you guys/girls think about this - god or no god i find this interesting.
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rebel8
I imagine it as a dystopian assembly (I know that was redundant).
They hide away in stadiums so they can control the living and avoid exposure to diseases caused by corpses. It takes the birds 50 years to eat the corpses, so they are living dorm-style in grey concrete stadiums with no privacy, fresh air, etc.
The bros go around gathering preserved food and bottled with masks so they don't catch disease. And that is what they all eat.
The toilets won't flush and there is no heat or air conditioning because electricity and water treatment plants stop running. Combined with the fact that fresh air is limited indoors, and they run out of deodorant after the first few years, it completely stinks. Soon the stank and sewage create dissidents and a splinter group leaves the stadium under prohibition from the elders. Satan kills them after the 1000 year imprisonment because of disobedience, while the obedient all die, overpowered by each others' body odor and disease.