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  Memorial Date this year, why so far out ?

  by Phizzy in

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  we have debated for many a long year on jwn about the "proper" date for the passover/memorial and my conclusion is that jw's get it all wrong for a number of reasons, but as the gospels are contradictory, nobody can say for sure.. most years they are close to the time by a day or so, signalled by the full moon occurring about then.. i believe this year they have chosen saturday april 11th.. this is a full week, near enough, away from the full moon.. what has gone on with their calculation ?.

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  rebel8

  That's because they were written by fallible humans, nothing more.

  And the fact that there was no Jesus, so it's all made up.
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  Blast from the past...

  by Abaddon in

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  hi people,.

  just dropping by at random to say hi.

  i used to be here a lot, from the really early days of jwd up until 2007 or 8 i guess.

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  rebel8

  Hi there
  
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  Watchtower in local newspaper

  by lostinthought in

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  forgive me if this has been posted already but this was in my local paper today.. http://m.recordonline.com/article/20150307/news/150309486/0/wap&template=wapart.

  if you have time to read, this is an interesting article talking about watchtowers property in ulster and orange county ny and how much the properties are worth.

  it also goes on to show how the tax exempt stays is hurting the communities..

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  I cannot imagine the tax burden for the paying residents. Prisons, agriculture and cults take up most the property tax potential and contribute little.
  
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  Russia's Supreme Court Declares Jehovah's Witnesses Website Extremist

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-s-supreme-court-declares-jehovah-s-witnesses-website-extremist/512562.html.

  russia's supreme court declares jehovah's witnesses website extremist.

  the moscow times.

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  rebel8

  I didn't see this news posted on this forum:

  http://www.examiner.com/article/jehovah-s-witnesses-are-declared-extremist-by-court-ordered-it-disbanded
  
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  The Days if Noah - Is this the new unofficial generation?

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  edit - "the days of noah" damn!.

  long story short - i need to go to bed!

  i was in edinburgh today with my wife (football, coffee, walks, food, cinema) and i always try to take 10 minutes to have a chat with the jws on the trolley in the "big city".. i challenged an older guy who turned out to be an pioneer about the generation.

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  rebel8

  He insisted that he was the same generation as his own grandmother!

  omg.

  And another thing: omg.
  
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  Socially awkward

  by tamagotchi in

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  growing up a jw has made me some what socially awkward.

  i would often push people away due to my weird traits.

  this was made worse by surrounding myself with certain people within the congregation who didn't have my best interest at heart, who now i know where trying to bring me down, this has invoked in me trust issues with people i meet.

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  rebel8

  Take a Myers-Briggs test and then seek out people who have a similar personality profile.

  Also check out meetup.com and find structured social activities with people who have similar interests. It's easier to socialize with structure.
  
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  Effect of reading here.

  by New day in

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  saomebody mentioned in a recent thread here i think that the more they read here the more they feel angry at the wt.

  personally, as an ex-elder (only resigned a few months ago) i feel that it is more like suddenly being on the outside looking in at a whole group of people playing parts.

  the zealous pioneers answering all the time.

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  rebel8

  One of the main reasons I left is because I was being forced into a role that was not natural or healthy for me. Here I am my natural self, 25 years post-borg.
  

  Behaviors and beliefs take time to change, and that's if you're actively trying to change them. Here you see people in different phases of healing and change.
  
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  I'm Ready... Thank you

  by Garrett in

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  2. friends

  hey guys,.

  so, something amazing happened recently.

  i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.

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  rebel8

  It is a fact that disassociation is a religious ritual of jws. It is a fact that you voluntarily participated in it.
  

  This statement of fact requires no authority--it is simply a fact we all know is true, including you.

  Your reasons for doing so do not change the fact that it is a religious ritual you participated in. If you are enthusiastic about it, great--why not embrace it for what it truly is then?
  

  Who do you think appears to be more under WTS control, someone honest enough to state their view publicly, or someone who pretends to still be JW who does not believe any of it?

  I am not sure if you mean this the way I am taking it, but that sounds like a false dichotomy: Either you DA or you are pretending to be a jw.
  

  Because it is totally possible to "state a view publicly" without DAing, those who choose to DA must have a different purpose. Whatever that is, it's their own choice to make and affects me in no way whatsoever.
  

  DAing was your chosen path. Surely you can respect that others can make their own choices too.
  
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  I'm Ready... Thank you

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
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  hey guys,.

  so, something amazing happened recently.

  i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.

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  I would be interested in getting clarification on what is meant by this.

  I never bought into the "it is playing by their rules argument". Most who say this are really pretty much faking it

  Faking what?
  

  it is equally as judgmental to claim "playing by their rules"

  Why do you view this as judgmental? DA is their religious ritual; voluntarily participating in it is playing by their rules. This is just a statement of fact, not judgment.
  

  when they don't know your personal reasons for DA). I did gain great peace of mind from it

  I can't imagine many personal reasons. Is my list missing anything?

  1. Expressing your feelings/beliefs to your former cultmates by use of a cult ritual (their rules).
  2. Seeking a sense of closure by forcing the cult grant it to you (their rules).
  3. Any variation on #2--getting some sort of catharsis by participating in the cult ritual of DA (their rules).
     
  4. Utilizing a cult ritual (their rules) to cut off contact from your former cultmates.
  5. Seeking punishment (their rules).

  Anyone who wants to play by their rules is free to do so. That's the beauty of the freedom you now have.
  
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  Need Help Designing a JW Barbie Doll

  by worldlygirl in

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  2. friends

  when i saw englishman's post about a theme for his "barbie", i thought he meant barbie doll.

  duh!!

  anyway, i was thinking what a jw barbie would look like.

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  rebel8

  I practically wet my pants reading this thread.

  Why is it getting revived? Are those real dolls someone made?

  Pencil skirts are not very jw. How about a full, ankle-length Little House on the Prarie skirt with tiny flowers? A blouse buttoned to a normal spot and then an extra button done for jehoopla (that used to be a saying: "Stop where you think you should, then do one extra for Jehovah").

  Barbie will wear a full slip and thick pantyhose. Dull colors. No makeup.

  She will have a full length, padded winter coat, long johns under her skirt, socks under warm, practical boots.

  She will have a McDonald's hot cocoa in her hand to keep her warm for a winter's day in fs.