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  KH 1st timer, could use some advice

  by rathernotsay in

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  hey people, .

  i am soon going into a kh for the first time and i could use some advice around etiquette etc.

  i know next to nothing besides the fundamental beliefs of jws, i personally dont believe in any religion, and that stance isnt ever going to change, however i don't want to come across as rude or disrespectful.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses are uncomfortable around hypocrites.
  

  ^another funny post

  I think their collective blood pressure increases when the emblems are passed to visitors. They are SO worried you're going to have a snack.
  
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  why report more partakers?

  by rebel8 in

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  of all the threads here about the number of partakers increasing, i don't recall theories as to why they report this.

  they could stop reporting numbers altogether or lie.

  instead they say, in essence, "our teachings about end times and heavenly hope are still wrong"..

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  of all the threads here about the number of partakers increasing, i don't recall theories as to why they report this. they could stop reporting numbers altogether or lie. instead they say, in essence, "our teachings about end times and heavenly hope are still wrong".
  
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  what is the best line to say to a JW handing you an invite to the memorial

  by nonjwspouse in

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  i have some ideas, but want more to choose from..

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  thanks, i'll bring the cheez whiz
  
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  rumor out that governing body is going to adjust the loveing disfellowshiping arangment df yes shunning no.

  by poopie in

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  can anyone confirm they seem to be having disagreement writing dept and service dept some feel that df ok as long as you do not add wholesale across the board shunning regardless of the sin ..

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  can we start with asking what the source of this rumor is?

  it's possible someone heard what's going on in russia and then engaged in wishful thinking.
  
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  I'm a father first!

  by FatherFirst in

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  hi guys, this is my first post; i thought i should introduce myself.

  i was raised and spent most of my life a jw before i was disassociated, because i refused to stop seeing a non witness girl.

  i must say their decision to cut me off from my family and friends although initially traumatic ended up being the biggest blessing in disguise of my life.

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  Good for you!

  Follow up question: Why are you calling it disassociated, not disfellowshipped? Were you one of the casualties of that period of time long ago where they had "disassociation" ritual for shunning unbaptized people (who were often children)?
  
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

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  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  It is not just religion, but all forms of woo, that suffers from the avoidance of logic and evidence.

  It all seems to consist of a few observable things + conclusions based on illogical extrapolation and embellishment.

  • I see exhaust and steam from airplanes in the sky; that is bad. Some people have diseases; that is bad. Governments and other organizations have power and sometimes do things I don't know about; that is bad. Therefore, chemtrails are a massive conspiracy to make people ill.
  • Poo is gross waste matter; I don't like poo. Some people have diseases; I don't like diseases. Disease must be caused by having poo in your colon. Everyone should have enemas to eliminate disease.
    
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  Telling Parents About TTATT

  by ivanatahan in

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  my parents are zealous jecultah's blindnesses, but my sister and i are not.

  because of this, we are limited in our abilities/opportunities in life.

  mu parents hate my sister because she went to college and started a full time job and thus isn't able to go to meetings or service.

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  Jecultah's Blindnesses

  That's going in the next edition of the Apostate Dictionary.
  
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  KH 1st timer, could use some advice

  by rathernotsay in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey people, .

  i am soon going into a kh for the first time and i could use some advice around etiquette etc.

  i know next to nothing besides the fundamental beliefs of jws, i personally dont believe in any religion, and that stance isnt ever going to change, however i don't want to come across as rude or disrespectful.

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  Attending a meeting for a believing friend or relative gives them:

  • Hope you're open to conversion, which means increased likelihood they will stay in the cult
    
  • Increased social status within the cult, which means increased likelihood they will stay in the cult
    
  • Activities they can report towards their monthly preaching quota, which means increased likelihood they will stay in the cult
    
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  Anthony Morris III... Did he really serve in Vietnam? Something doesn't quite add up...

  by Calebs Airplane in

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  2. scandals

  born in 1950, he apparently became a regular pioneer in 1971.. but wait.... let's just say that he enlisted (or was drafted) in 1968 at age 18.... depending on the branch of service, he would have to complete anywhere from 2 to 4 years of service.

  yes, duty in hot combat zones was usually limited to 6-months at a time but you still had to serve a total of 2 to 4 years depending on the branch of service.

  assuming he only served 2 years, he would have been 20 years old and discharged by 1970.... how did he get witnessed to, complete a book study, become an unbaptized publisher, get baptized and then become a regular pioneer in less than year???.

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  Anyone know his (alleged) branch of service?

  Estimated dates of military service?
  
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  Anthony Morris III... Did he really serve in Vietnam? Something doesn't quite add up...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  born in 1950, he apparently became a regular pioneer in 1971.. but wait.... let's just say that he enlisted (or was drafted) in 1968 at age 18.... depending on the branch of service, he would have to complete anywhere from 2 to 4 years of service.

  yes, duty in hot combat zones was usually limited to 6-months at a time but you still had to serve a total of 2 to 4 years depending on the branch of service.

  assuming he only served 2 years, he would have been 20 years old and discharged by 1970.... how did he get witnessed to, complete a book study, become an unbaptized publisher, get baptized and then become a regular pioneer in less than year???.

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  I'm willing to submit a request for records if anyone can provide any of the following. Right now I do not have enough info.

  • The veteran's complete name used while in service
  • Service number or social security number
  • Branch of service
  • Dates of service
  • Date and place of birth
    
  • • Place of discharge
    • Last unit of assignment
    • Place of entry into the service, if known.

  Even if he went by another name in the military, I think it would be useful to find out no one by that name was in the military on the dates in question. It begs the question, why change your name?