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  JW Child Abuse Makes 'Private Eye'

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  following on from the recent thread about wt losing an appeal concerning the uk charity commission (sorry, i can't do the link) i'm pleased to report that this matter is covered in the latest 'private eye' (20 march - 2 april issue).. it's a one-third page article (p.34) under the heading 'child abuse' and the headline 'silent witnesses'.

  it reports the case accurately, mentions several criminal cases and the ongoing high court compensation case.

  it includes some of judge mckenna's comments..

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  convicted child abuser Jonathan Rose was allowed to question his victims after release from prison to see whether he should be allowed to return to the congregation

  WTF! Proof positive there is no loving, powerful god in charge of the universe.

  This is tantamount to cutting open a cancer survivor and inserting a new tumor.
  

  Manchester Evening News
  

  Rose was even allowed to ask the women about the abuse he was jailed for - as eight elders looked on.

  A source, who asked not to be named, told the MEN: “Before each meeting the women were read a scripture on false witnesses and told to consider it carefully. They had to go through the abuse in detail and were asked if they encouraged it. One of the victims was asked if she had enjoyed it.

  “At the third meeting Rose was present. He questioned the women in detail about the abuse with no one stepping in to stop bullying as would happen in court.
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  Governing Body Sheep Fleecing - Official!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  fellow witnesses - do you think the kingdom hall belongs to you, just because you all paid for it and personally finance its maintenance?

  think again, sheep!

  the "shepherds" have announced the fleecing in black & white for you, in case you decide to question them!.

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  World becoming more religious not less

  by Stealth in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is bad news for the evolution of humankind.

  even worse, islam is the fastest growing religion.

  http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html?cmpid=nl_ls_weekly_2015-04-03 .

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  I'm alarmed that Islam, the religion with its anti-equality and pro-violence teachings most talked about in the world right now, is growing fast.
  

  This seems to be further evidence the human race's ignorance is going to continue.
  
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  "jehovah loves all sorts of people"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok, so if you haven't as yet watched the new cartoon clip on the website, be prepared to throw up!.

  it is called "jehovah loves all sorts of people", and features an awful song about how "jehovah loves everyone" even "different colors", etc....yep...they actually say that!.

  huh??????.

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  Even "different colors"

  omg. omg.

  Which ones are considered different? Let me guess.

  
  
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  Questions about Non JWs attending a JW baptism

  by TTWSYF in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i attended my brother and sister in laws' baptism at a kingdom hall a number of years ago.

  i was [am] not a jw so when i arrived i was bombarded with attention from the flock to which i politely stated that i was there to see my brother and his wife.

  it seemed like the distraction was intentional.

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  I find it a little unusual for a non-jw to know the baptism includes pledging allegiance to the borganization. How did you come to know that?
  
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  Recycled WTS beliefs

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know the wts abandons and invents beliefs faster than apple can churn out new shiny stuff.

  but have they ever abandoned a belief and later picked it up again?.

  i remember many years ago we had one of those post-district-assembly review parts (part of the service meeting) where they were discussing some "new light".. there was some confusion about which was the "new" and which was the "old" and a semi-discussion ensued with people commenting.

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  Unbaptized people are not ritually shunned.*

  Unbaptized people are ritually shunned.

  Unbaptized people are not ritually shunned.

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  *"Ritually shunned" means, in this context, having a judicial committee, announcing a change in status from the platform, 'not even eating or saying a greeting'.
  
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  Pastor Inciting Murder And Genocide Of Gays

  by Village Idiot in

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  2. current

  i'm not so much into gay issues as i am into right wing fundamentalist issues but what they say about gays is irksome and at times dangerous.

  when trawling the internet for their statements i find that 80% of what they have to say is about gays, more so than abortion or even obama.

  i could shrug it off as pathetic ignorance unworthy of a rebuttal if it weren't for the occasional psychos like the one below.. rarely do they explicitly state these opinions but in this video they show their true colors.. this harlem pastor is calling on 'christians' to die and kill for the sake of their beliefs.

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  I've listed to the 'kill' bit 3x and it sounds to me like he's saying we need to kill Obama.

  re what fulltimestudent said--ITA. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
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  Pastor Inciting Murder And Genocide Of Gays

  by Village Idiot in

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  2. current

  i'm not so much into gay issues as i am into right wing fundamentalist issues but what they say about gays is irksome and at times dangerous.

  when trawling the internet for their statements i find that 80% of what they have to say is about gays, more so than abortion or even obama.

  i could shrug it off as pathetic ignorance unworthy of a rebuttal if it weren't for the occasional psychos like the one below.. rarely do they explicitly state these opinions but in this video they show their true colors.. this harlem pastor is calling on 'christians' to die and kill for the sake of their beliefs.

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  It sounds like he has threatened the President, so he will be getting a visit by the Secret Service.
  

  He's not wrong about the bible. This is what it teaches. It's an ugly, hateful book.
  
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  Something a CO once said.

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "there are only three reasons you should miss a meeting.

  fever, fracture or funeral.

  everything else is a sorry excuse.

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  Farting

  Fecal incontinence

  Fungus

  First degree burns

  Flu

  Food poisoning

  Fugue
  
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  How many members left the Watchtower because of all the Hatred and Anti-christian behavior? Were you exposed to betrayal, lies and slander against your family?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am trying to wrap my head around 2014 and all the evil we experienced while the elders and overseer said "wait on jehovah because that's what all the true believers do!

  " and i explained it's too painful to see the wicked people who brought my family suffering giving talks and providing other witness families with instruction we are to use when the end comes.

  why are the quite members those who get treated like trash while members who call down evil upon the organization get everything they want so they will keep their mouths shut?.

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  I'm having a hard time coming up with an example of anti-xian behavior by jws. The bible is one of the most hateful, petty, violent books I've ever read, and I'm not just talking about the OT.
  

  Are they wrong about their claims that they're loving? Absolutely.

  The root of the problem is their holy book.