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  Looking forward to going to Memorial this year!

  by kpop in

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  i have some tricks to play.

  i know it may sound childish but i feel that creating havoc and forcing the memorial to be postponed will be the highlight of the night!

  wish me luck!.

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  It's fun to fantasize. There are also some harmless, legal practical jokes that could be done.

  Funny things to not do at the Memorial
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  Ugg took aspirin?! - Perhaps ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  interesting article in the huff post uk today - scientists in australia have been studying the tooth enamel of neanderthals (homo neanderthalensis).. from the article: .

  dr laura weyrich, author on the paper, said: “genetic analysis of that dna locked-up in plaque, represents a unique window into neanderthal lifestyle ― revealing new details of what they ate, what their health was like and how the environment impacted their behaviour.” .

  ... neanderthals who lived in spy cave ate wooly rhinoceros and wild sheep ... those from the el sidron cave ate a largely vegetarian diet of pine nuts, moss, mushrooms and tree bark.. and perhaps the most interesting: one of these vegetarian subjects had a dental abscess on his jawbone, and a diarrhea-causing parasite, and was self medicating with poplar - a plant that contains salicylic acid, the active ingredient in aspirin.. (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/neanderthals-used-aspirin-to-self-medicate_uk_58c13a4fe4b0ed71826a4151?utm_hp_ref=uk; http://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news91022.html)..

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  Very cool to learn more about our ancestors!

  Animals that self-medicate
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  Sample Disassociation Letter please?

  by LifesNotOver in

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  2. beliefs

  i want to send a disassociation letter to the elders at my old congregation.

  how do i address it and what wording do i use?

  i know it's not something i have to do, it's symbolic for me.

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  they won't pay attention to any of the reasons you put down
  

  Agreed.

  I have one that doesn't give an actual reason for leaving, because the reason doesn't matter to anybody but you. No need to tell them why.Doesn't matter.
  

  This letter just says I didn't meet the baptismal criteria so the baptism isn't valid.
  

  This is done for legal reasons. It protects you in case you are harassed, defamed or visited afterwards: baptism nullification letter
  
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  Best statement a householder made to get you to leave them alone.

  by Esse quam videri in

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  knocked on a door on a saturday morning.

  a window opened on the floor above me.

  a grizzled old man stuck his head out and said, " we're all heathens here!

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  A guy said he was possessed by demons and acted like he was actively hearing voices.

  Everything else was an invitation to "overcome objections".
  
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  Confused

  by confused3426 in

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  i am a newbie, and yes current jw.

  i have been dealing with a lot confusion for months now.

  i guess it started last year when i found myself losing my zeal, desire for spiritual things.

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  You really don't need to go further than to look at the Society's own words.

  You can look up these publications yourself to confirm the information is true.

  Quotes from the Society's publications

  Scans of Golden Age and other publications
  

  Be sure to keep in mind the Society claims to be Jehovah's only channel since ancient times. The new light doctrine is used to excuse previous inaccuracies, but to what extent would Jehovah's only true representative on Earth be so wrong?

  Wouldn't they know that germs are real, for example? Why would Jehovah specifically guide His Organization to believe they are not real?
  

  This will all blow your mind. Keep thinking, keep fact checking, keep going as far as you can stand. You will need to take a break now and again to wrap your head around all of the shocking things you will find out.

  You will go through a grief process as though a good friend died--shock, denial, bargaining, depression, anger and acceptance. These are normal feelings. Give yourself permission to feel them. Just try to not get stuck on any one phase too long so you can get to acceptance. :)
  
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  No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones

  by AverageJoe1 in

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  new letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).

  february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.

  re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.

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  This sounds like great news to me.

  But check out the backwards logic: We found a strategy that is effective; hence, we're going to stop that strategy now.

  
  
  
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  I just don't have the lies to give...

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  a friend of mine (a jw) delivered a premature baby, and the outlook is grim.. she is posting updates on facebook, and where everyone else is offering prayers for them both, and how "jehovah loves them both very much", and i got...nothing.

  nothing that would be comforting.

  big man in the sky has zero to do with this, only medical science and chance will have any bearing on this.i wish i could lie convincingly to her and to myself and have something nice to say.

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  +1 for the fresh fruit, and if I could like freddo's comment more than once, I would. I said a similar thing in a similar situation recently.
  
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  So JW's are not allowed to vote because.... "no part of this world." Ok then explain why the WTBTS lobbied politicians on numerous

  by kpop in

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  sorry if this was posted before but if it was then it is worth repeating and discussing.

  the hypocrisy of the jw cult knows no bounds.

  supposedly, the reason jw's are not allowed to vote is because they must not be a part of this world.

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  There was a referendum years ago on whether we should have 'day-light' saving.

  So did you vote for old light or new light?
  
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  More fun! Did you know that Judge Rutherford had a daughter? I sure didn't......

  by sparky1 in

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  i have too much time on my hands.

  my investigations are turning up some neat historical facts..

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  Can you imagine being the descendant of JFR, who caused the death and suffering of so many people?

  Kinda reminds me of this (of course, I am not equating the 2 infamous men, just the feelings I imagine the relatives would have).
  
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  I feel like I'm losing my religion/faith

  by christina1111 in

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  i'm a baptized jw...been baptized for 8 years...and throughout the years i've been baptized i see "hypocrisy" so to speak in the religion...when you're new and not baptized that's when the jws want to invite you to every gathering they have, they want to appear like they're your best friend...they want to help you out when needed and so forth...however, once you're baptized you go to the elders for help they don't help you....all they do is gather you around the office...have bibles in hand and so forth...they give you articles as well, instead of physically helping you out....but yet when you weren't baptized they would physically help you out and not throw scriptures and articles in your face.

  also when you ask for help and so forth with the bros/sisters they want to throw the "each one must carry his/her own load" scripture at you.....but yet what happened to the scripture of taking care of widows and people who are orphans?.

  it's not just one congregation...throughout the 8 years i've been baptized i've been through many kingdom halls...many towns...many states...when i was inactive for awhile i even pretended to not be baptized and just play dumb when the witnesses came to my door...they're much nicer to you when you're not baptized then when you are baptized...why is that?.

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  when you're new and NOT BAPTIZED that's when the jws want to invite you to every gathering they have, they want to APPEAR like they're your best friend… It's not just ONE CONGREGATION...throughout the 8 years i've been baptized i've been through many kingdom halls...many towns...many states...when i was inactive for awhile I even pretended to not be baptized and just play dumb when the witnesses came to my door...they're much nicer to you when you're not baptized then when you are baptized...why is that?

  Yes, many others have noticed this too. It is called love bombing.

  I would love to talk to the elders about it, but then they'd either mark me and judge me.

  Probably

  ..and I'm "thinking" this is a safe place to go to without being judged and ridiculed and marked...

  Yes it is. There are a few jerks here but mostly nice people.
  

  I don't even feel like going out in the ministry

  You shouldn’t go in the ministry, straight up. There are many reasons for that. Take a total break from it right now while you sort it out. Jehovah is eternity. The ministry will be there if you change your mind. In the meantime, ponder if the religion, in real life, lives up to its claims:

  John 13:35: "By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves"