What will make you say "that's enough"?????????
Stromboli
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The Pope is NOT the voice of God on Earth
by Survive1999 ini have always been a little bit puzzled by jws loudly proclaiming that the pope is not the "voice of god on earth", and turning around and vernerating the watchtower as "the voice of god on earth.".
i have repeatedly told jws to apply the same standard you do against the pope to the watchtower and you will be more than a bit dissapointed.
the best answer i could ever get was, "well that's different".. can any exjws explain this?
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Stromboli
Good one Trevor..............
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Is it ok to be critical of the pope yet?????????
by tyydyy incensorship borg style.
somebody killed the pope's last poop thread just because someone else was offended when i mentioned that i think that he wasn't such a good guy.
if you think you might be offended by what's said in a thread then don't read it.
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Stromboli
re-read my post and then your, then think about how many things you have added that I did not mention, and how many you have confirmed.
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Is it ok to be critical of the pope yet?????????
by tyydyy incensorship borg style.
somebody killed the pope's last poop thread just because someone else was offended when i mentioned that i think that he wasn't such a good guy.
if you think you might be offended by what's said in a thread then don't read it.
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Stromboli
Well
tyydyy is absolutely right if you englishman felt that some said something wrong then lock them not the entire thread.
and BTW it shows ignorance to say that he is a "good man", anyway many feel sorry about him because they decided to parade a man with an illness and who woudn't feel sorry about that (I would feel sorry for a cat or a dog in that state). They just saw him as an old man, definately not their leader, remember that only few give a shit about what he says.
Come to Italy (defiantely chatholic) ask people if they are chatolics and they'll say yes, then ask would you have sex before marriage? yes, would you use condoms or pills before/after marriage? yes. Then say "but the pope says not to do it", they will just laugh in your face..................Nobody think that you should actually listen to him (I find that great!!!!) JWs should learn that too
The man is about to die and my God judge him, but you people stay calm it's another man dieing and he wasn't better than each and every single one of you all......... not special I'm afraid, actually some of you may be more special than him......
Also "leaders" don't get discounts when they die, you can carry on biting them....... It's in the job description.....
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Are you impressed by Pope John Paul II?
by GermanXJW inat pentecost, pope john paul ii could not speak when giving his traditional blessing.
many people are impressed by this pope because he does not resign.
they campare it to christ's sufferings.
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Stromboli
Can the pope resign?
He can do it but only voluntarely. He won't do it because he thinks that his soffering somehow benefits the cause and the people.
Yeah!?! Can you feel it??..... LOL
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Is Organized Religion Something You'd Be Involved In Again?
by minimus indo you believe in christianity, the bible, god-----or are you in the "i'm not sure what to think" class?
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Stromboli
No!
The truth will set you free (you can't go back, can you.......)
Good quote Blondie....
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If JWs Are A Cult, I Believe Roman Catholicism Is Too
by minimus ini believe that jehovah's witnesses are a "cult".
to be a "good roman catholic" you have to be "cultic", that's for sure!
their beliefs and practices, rites and ceremonies are simply weird!
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Stromboli
Pole,
yep, agreed.
Now does it make any sense to join an org like that? if someone (after JWs) felt the need to join wouldn't you find it strange? knowing that if you take it seriouly as JWs it's another "cult" and if you don't take it seriously what's the point of joining? This is actualy a real question because I don't understand why someone would do that after JWs.....
The semantic cycle is actually exposed by the question. To be able to assert it without entering the cycle you need to get out of Orgs all together.(however that brings other problems) That's why the question: "Do religious orgs make any sense?" can be seen as a consequence of the initial question.
If it depends on the subjective relation of individuals with the org aren't all inherently a cult to some extent? if so why would one join it?
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If JWs Are A Cult, I Believe Roman Catholicism Is Too
by minimus ini believe that jehovah's witnesses are a "cult".
to be a "good roman catholic" you have to be "cultic", that's for sure!
their beliefs and practices, rites and ceremonies are simply weird!
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Stromboli
Yeah Pole, It's funny because (for what I understood from prev posts) you don't really want to defend them and I just want to prove a point
You know what I mean... I have nothing against individuals... I'm talking about orgs and the piramidal structures and related practices...and the hypocrisy of the orgs...
If you take the RCC as seriously as JWs then it's a cult, thanksfully nobody (OK only few) take the RCC seriously So the definition of "cult" is loose as it's subjective. In the RCC nowadays you can choose not to believe everything they say whereas with JWs you have no choice. But the point is (as funkyderek said) if it doesn't perfectly fit the definition it doesn't mean it's harmless...and it does fit depending on the individual... do you really think that after years with JWs you should join an org with a leader dressed like that and when you meet him you have to kiss his gold ring? I know you don't (well hope...)
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If JWs Are A Cult, I Believe Roman Catholicism Is Too
by minimus ini believe that jehovah's witnesses are a "cult".
to be a "good roman catholic" you have to be "cultic", that's for sure!
their beliefs and practices, rites and ceremonies are simply weird!
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Stromboli
Hi Narkissos,
If every religion is a cult there is no point in using the word "cult" anymore
Why? If they fit the definition then you can say it indeed..
if every political party disgusts me there's no point in calling them disgusting anymore?
To me that's the point of the initial question.... If they fit the definition as well and many more religions do, what then...... what repercussions should that have on our idea of religion...
A good point indeed....
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If JWs Are A Cult, I Believe Roman Catholicism Is Too
by minimus ini believe that jehovah's witnesses are a "cult".
to be a "good roman catholic" you have to be "cultic", that's for sure!
their beliefs and practices, rites and ceremonies are simply weird!
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Stromboli
Hello Pole ,
Well you would be right if....
And when the catholics were like the JWs and they were 99.999999%, people had many troubles.....they used to kill people at that time.....then, when they couldn't kill them anymore, they prevented from working.... now they would pay to have you back
Nowadays could JWs be a billion? I don't think so....
Cult or no cult? well you're right who cares! they just ain't good...is that pragmatic?