Posts by inbyathread

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Remember when KH's had a piano and real singing?

by WingCommander in

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the thread about got me thinking about my very early childhood, back when witnesses were allowed to be social and have get togethers.

they also had a piano in every congregation i ever attended, and an older sister would always play the kingdom melody.

there was actual singing - not mindless droning and humming.

inbyathread

November 1976 KM Question Box

Question

Box

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Is it proper that the body of elders arrange for musical accompaniment for congregational singing other than using the Society’s recordings?

This is a matter for decision by the body of elders. Accompaniment for singing does help the congregation to sing well. Some congregations may not have record players to use in playing the Society’s recordings. Where qualified persons with musical talent are available, many congregations prefer to have piano or other instrumental accompaniment. It would not be good to try to use someone who does not really know how to play an instrument well.

When recordings are used, care should be used to replace worn-out or damaged records, thus maintaining the high standard of the meetings that should be found in the congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Notice that it is a matter for the BOE. If they have any backbone they will tell off the CO. 99.9% of elders now will just follow what the CO says. They don't want to be known for causing problems.

At a previous congregation we had piano players and everyone enjoyed it and sang loudly. Canned music just lulls everyone into a sleep stupor.

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Another Deceitful Tactic by the WTBTS.

by gumby in

as most informed jehovah's witnesses know, the wtbts is very good at painting a pretty picture of themselves by cleverly wording things to outsiders, yet not revealing the specifics of their beliefs.. below is an example from their official website regarding whether or not they shun members who choose to leave them.

they do not tell the public of the interogation they impose on members who wish to quietly leave ( fade ).. notice they mention how they are more than happy to restore those who exit, but fail to mention the types of questions they ask to those who leave them.. while they admit they shun those who verbally express they no longer wish to be a jehovahs witness, they do not tell the public they coerce that very statement from those who try to leave peacefully and quietly.

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inbyathread

Hi Anitar. I don't think that the friends here at JWD are 'anti-witness' While fading or whatever we need to decompress. Along with that the need to vent, is really necessary and really healthy. Some stick around for awhile and others leave to live their lives again. This is a support group of sorts. My personal anger is gone now and I think I'm somewhere between acceptance and humor. While I probably don't need to be here anymore I still need a comfort area. I like reading the posts of newbies and seeing their growth of independence. It's been a long day today and I think I'm starting to babble now. Till another day. 15 days to the ABC fest.

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Interesting developments

by SickofLies in

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hello everyone, remember me?

for those of you who are new i produced a documentary on disfellowshiping in the kingdom hall.

the interesting thing is that i was df'ed not for committing and 'gross' sin, as you might think, but i was df'ed of litterally asking to many questions.. anyway, i've heard the following news co's and do's in the us are talking about my case, i have been barred from ever entering a kingdom hall again (police notice was enfocred on me) and for some reason i have been getting calls from elders from the hall i was booted out of lately (i have not returned or answered the calls as of yet).

inbyathread

For those confused. Here is the scoop

SOL (from Canada) made audio and video recordings for his DF documentary and you can see these at: http://www.watchtower.cc/~dan2007/

Schnee_belly (from Wisconsin) videotaped the elders telling him he was DF'd. That video can be seen at http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=337&cp=7

Two different settings. But we all are getting courageous.

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Would you honor your relatives request for no blood?

by free2beme in

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as i get older, i realize that a time could come where i could find my spouse and i in a situation where we could have our parents in a situation of needing blood to live and us having to speak on their behalf.

with that in mind, i know that the medical directive is not enough and they do try to get family members to do the blood to save them.

i know this, as it happened with my mother and my dad had her take blood.

inbyathread

Am I being hypocritical? I don't know but IF, and it is a huge IF an active witness asked me to be their health care agent I would abide by their wishes. Before consenting to this I would let them know of my personal feelings regarding the societies rulings on the blood issue. If they still wanted me to be their agent then I would.

Of course standing in an emergency room could change my thought process.

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September KM - 70 alterations in Revelation Climax Book

by dozy in

i can't find a thread on this subject yet - if there is one , please delete this one.. the september kingdom ministry has a 4 page insert detailing the 70 alterations in the revelation climax book which is due to be studied at the book study shortly.

i'll provide scans if anyone is interested.. i will leave it up to more experienced analysts to examine the reasons for specific changes , but just a few brief observations for now:.

p32 box - "they were completely exonerated" changed to "charges against them were dropped" - interesting change of terminology for the 1918 watchtower eight.

inbyathread

I'll provide scans if anyone is interested

Yes please!

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BOOT CAMP

by purplesofa in

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anyone here been through bootcamp?.

i want to know what it is like for my daughter......... there must be some stories out there ....... also, anyone know heatmiser?

if i remember right, he was in iraq or going.........just curious.. and~~~~ is anyone from south carolina?.

inbyathread

I'll try to be brief.

Bootcamp is an intense training period lasting between 6 and 9 weeks depending on the service. Training consists of military history, physical and emotional conditioning. Menu's are specifically designed for this type of training. A slim person who is underweight will gain weight while an overweight person will lose pounds. I couldn't keep up with the running when I first arrived but was leading our squad by the time I left. Slower persons are assisted by others within the squad. Never leave a shipmate behind.

If looked at by someone from the outside the emotional conditioning could be seen as terror. People are broken down emotionally, but very quickly and methodically they are built up thinking the military way. You cannot have an American Solder asking questions during a firefight. They are trained to fight. They are trained to survive.

Be proud of your daughter.

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BoE letters up (1977-2001), plus public talk outlines

by Jourles in

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it looks like the 1977-2001 letters are up!

the '01-'06 letters will be forthcoming shortly i hear.. http://www.reexamine.org/boe/.

i would suggest downloading the index (3.8mb) first, then you can view/download a particular letter referenced from the index.

inbyathread

Very Nice. Praise the Lord and pass the Ammunition.

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Letter from the WTBTS

by sammielee24 in

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can anyone tell me how long i might have to wait - in general - for a letter from the watchtower?

i sent them 2 different letters in regards to some questions that i have and i just want an idea of how long to wait until i send a follow up.

in actual fact i'm not even expecting them to respond but how long do i give them?

inbyathread

I'm waiting almost two years from my first letter. I'm not holding my breath.

My suggestion is to send it registered. That way they cannot say they never received it. You have proof of their receiving it and the response seems to come more quickly.

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