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Prove to me that God exists

by CinemaBlend in

i need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.

CinemaBlend

Natures art has a sense to it, so does the consciousness required to appreciate it. These things do not prove the existence of a personal god. What they can do is make us aware of a greater consciousness which we can choose to be a part of instead of remaining isolated.

Greater consciousness is a fancy term that doesn't mean much, and again, you admit this is no proof of God, so I'm still waiting for it.

Perhaps to many people god is an expression for a concept they cannot explain. In the process of trying to make this concept more understandable they attribute human qualities and gender to the concept of a god. It as this point that the whole concept becomes flawed.

I hope you enjoyed your walk!

Nice walk, still no proof.

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Prove to me that God exists

by CinemaBlend in

i need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.

CinemaBlend

Jesus was seen by many witnesses and he claimed to know God / be God.
Many prophets have seen God and recorded that experience in scripture.

Really? Prove it. First you'd have to prove the Bible is literal fact and that's a whole nother thing.

Then you have to add to the mix the millions of people who have had spiritual experiences - now this was my point about what evidences would be allowed - materialists would be inclined to reject anything of a spiritual nature as unprovable. There are however several instances of spiritual experience that have been shared (Toronto Blessing).
I've never seen credible evidence of "spiritual experiences" you yourself admit they are unprovable, so that's no kind of evidence.

Anything else?

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JWs and socio economic status

by greendawn in

jw
friends

do you think that someone's socio economic status determines how they get treated (behaved to) by the jws?

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can someone high up the ladder get away with more things especially if he made big donations to the society and do they look down upon those lower down?

CinemaBlend

Sure, it's no different than anywhere else.

Rich people hang with rich people.

It's not even necessarily because they are intentionally shunning poor folk always... but simply because they have the money to go do things together that poorer people cannot.

For all their talk of being "different" from the world because of some special brotherhood, Witnesses are just like anyone else.

When my wife and I first got married, we ended up getting an apartment that happened to be on the edge of the territory of a Kingdom Hall in the wealthiest part of town. Our apartment wasn't expensive, it was tiny, and we were really really poor, but we ended up going to the wealthiest hall in town.

We went there 9 months, and never made a single friend. Not even an aquaitance. Not even a second dinner invite.

We'd pull up in our 1989 Ford Crown Victoria in a parking lot full of brand new 2000 Porche's, BMW's, expensive SUVs, and we just didn't fit in. They'd all go do these rediculously lavish things on the weekend... we'd be in servece and they'd say "oh hey we're all kicking in and taking out a yacht this weekend, it's only 500 bucks a person, do you want to go?" and of course we had to say "um now we can't afford that" and so they'd drop us off at the Kingdom Hall after service and go to expensive lunches or out on their yachts or whatever.

After a couple of times of that they didn't even ask us or really waste time talking to us anymore. We couldn't afford to run in their social circle.

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Got a web site for your business?

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

remember how the jws always promote each others' businesses?

let's stick together!

do you have a web site for your business or a book you wrote?

CinemaBlend

CinemaBlend.com - Now with more caffeine.

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Prove to me that God exists

by CinemaBlend in

i need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.

CinemaBlend

This may be off topic a little

There's almost no one in this thread who is actually on topic so far... so you fit right in. LOL.

*sigh*

Such a simple premise...

Really people.

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Prove to me that God exists

by CinemaBlend in

i need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.

CinemaBlend

I think, therefore I am Start believing lest I smite thee, vile doubter!

Seriously, though, if you are needing to stretch your legs I'd love to take the challenge. Is PM okay? I wouldn't want someone thinking my arguments were my genuine feelings or reasonings.

post a disclaimer with all your posts. LOL.

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Prove to me that God exists

by CinemaBlend in

i need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.

CinemaBlend

Take a walk around a spring garden.
Watch a beautiful woman.
Study your hands.
Then appreciate the manifestation of the invisible artist or artists.

No faith needed.

No books required.

Religion need not apply.

I had a nice walk. How does that prove invisible artists? Are you trying to prove the existence of pixies?

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Who's picketing a convention this year?

by Junction-Guy in

i will be, i just cant decide where.

im trying to tie it all into my vacation, but i might just have to drive a ways for a 1 day picket within my region.

some locations i have considered are amarillo tx, cleveland oh, duluth ga, biloxi ms, columbia sc, huntsville al, little rock ar, and possibly johnson city tn, but kinda doubtful there.

CinemaBlend

Picketing does more harm than good. For every 1/10,000 doubters it might make doubt a little more, it strengthens the resolve of 100,000 other witnesses because now they feel "persecuted" or like people are out to get them.

Bunker mentality.

It's harmful... and frankly picketers always look like they're crazy. All the witnesses and heck, half the guys on their way to work are just thinking "look at those wackos"

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