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  A question about baptism

  by fairchild in

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  this might sound silly, but it is something that bothers me.. for the longest time i had the desire to be baptized as a jw.

  recently, after joining this forum and doing a lot of reading around here, i have come to understand that there is a difference between being loyal to jehovah and being loyal to the wts.

  if i don't join the wts, then i will never get baptized, but people in the bible clearly got baptized.

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  AshtonCA

  Elsewhere,

  I agree withwhat you have had to say 100%. Our learning does not come from man, it comes from our own prayer and study of the bible. Always pray for guidance before you read, and God will lead you to whatever it is you are seaking.

  Ash
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  A question about baptism

  by fairchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this might sound silly, but it is something that bothers me.. for the longest time i had the desire to be baptized as a jw.

  recently, after joining this forum and doing a lot of reading around here, i have come to understand that there is a difference between being loyal to jehovah and being loyal to the wts.

  if i don't join the wts, then i will never get baptized, but people in the bible clearly got baptized.

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  Most religions do have some aspects of correctness to them, but finding one that is 100% correct is probably never going to happen. For me, I feel that a religion is not a place for me, that I can associate with other likeminded people and read the bible with them and study, but I don't need a church building to do it in. We are the church, and God dwells within us, so a building is needless, IMO. Hope I don't step on any toes with this belief.

  Ash
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  A question about baptism

  by fairchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this might sound silly, but it is something that bothers me.. for the longest time i had the desire to be baptized as a jw.

  recently, after joining this forum and doing a lot of reading around here, i have come to understand that there is a difference between being loyal to jehovah and being loyal to the wts.

  if i don't join the wts, then i will never get baptized, but people in the bible clearly got baptized.

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  AshtonCA

  Heck, you don't even need a church to go get baptized in, just have someone who believes what you believe go do it for you. When my entire family left the truth, my father who was an elder for 17 years baptized the majority of us at the beach. My hubby baptized my mother and me at a 24-hour fitness in their pool. My son, who is 11 asked me the other day about baptism, so we are reading the scriptures on it together and his father will baptize him in our complex's pool this summer. My brother who had no one near him to do it, did it himself at the beach. All of these methods are just as valid in God's eyes at if you went to a church and had it done, maybe even more so.

  Ash
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  Fluoride is toxic and we should not be drinking, and growing food with it

  by Derek123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hydrofluosilicic acid(industrial grade fluoride which most cities use) contains about 40-50 % fluoride the rest is heavy metals, like arsenic, lead, aluminum, chronium and uranium-238.. anyway i have been lately focusing on alzheimer's and fluoride in cites and towns drinking water and a possible link.

  as several double-blind studies have shown that fluoridated water can often cause acute adverse reactions (in addition to the chronic poisoning effects discussed below).

  some of the effects seen in double-blind studies include: gastrointestinal symptoms, stomatitis, joint pains, polydipsia, headaches, visual disturbances, muscular weakness, and extreme tiredness.

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  My Father-in-law tells everyone he knows that when his two sons were young, he had them on fluoride pills and they grew up with no cavities. He was actually asked to do an artical on the use of fluoride pills to fight cavities. The only problem is, it is now known that over use of fluoride in children leads to adult with rotting teeth and major cavity problems as a direct result. Case in point, both my hubby and his brother's teeth are actually crumbling out of their mouths and my hubby has to have thousands of $$$ of dental work due to the over use of fluoride. We haven't told his father yet, but the next time he brings it up, I'm going to mention it.

  Ashton
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  I was Molested by my CO grandfather

  by AshtonCA in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was molested by my grandfather from the age of 3 to 7. he was also molesting his daughter (my aunt) and maybe others.

  it was covered over and my entire family was actually shunned when we went to the elders when i was 18. i did not tell anyone about it until then because my grandfather had me believing our relationship was special and it was our little secret.. when confronted, he of course denied it.

  my mother even spoke up of a time when he had tried to molest her when she was 8 months pregnant with one of my brothers.

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  Thank you all for your kind words. I'm 37 yo and it is a subject that I don't speak of often. I have never had counseling, though I know I should have.

  while reading all of these posts on this board, I can so relate to most topics. I swear, I have to look and see if the posts weren't posted by my siblings lol.

  Ashton
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  I was Molested by my CO grandfather

  by AshtonCA in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was molested by my grandfather from the age of 3 to 7. he was also molesting his daughter (my aunt) and maybe others.

  it was covered over and my entire family was actually shunned when we went to the elders when i was 18. i did not tell anyone about it until then because my grandfather had me believing our relationship was special and it was our little secret.. when confronted, he of course denied it.

  my mother even spoke up of a time when he had tried to molest her when she was 8 months pregnant with one of my brothers.

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  Hi, not sure who DY is

  Ashton
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  Were your parents control freaks?

  by Dustin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  growing up in the jw religion and having a dad who was an elder, i remember how controlling they were.

  i find it amazing now just how much of my childhood i missed out on.

  i couldn't watch alot of t.v.

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  AshtonCA

  My parents were very strict as well. we were homeschooled, we were not allowed to play with the neighbor kids and most of the time we were not allowed to associate with the kids at the KH because most of them were "brats". To this day, I am suffering from crap that went on. I was spanked until I was 16 yo! My dad did apologize and said, they didn't know why they kept doing it, since it really didn't work on me anyway (I have ADHD and they didn't know it at the time. They just thought I was lazy and bratty.)

  They were not strict on things like the Smurfs or movies. In fact my mom ran a school in our home and we had other witness kids and one of them told another non witness kid that he was sinning because he watched the Smurfs and my mom told him not to say that and the kid went home and told his elder dad that my mom had told him not to "witness" to the other kid and they pulled their son out of my mom's school because of it.

  They were strict on the dating thing. I will say that I made it to 23 before I lost my virginity to a guy I eventually married who was also a virgin, but not a JW.

  I have crappy social skills because of how sheltered we were. I also have problems from the spankings and just the strictness of how we were treated. I have to watch it that I am not controlling myself.

  Ashton
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  How did you brutally destroy your WT publications?

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the only wt publication i brutally destroyed was a brand new copy of the revalation book.

  i was so frustrated with the religion that i ripped the goddam thing into a hundred pieces.

  it was a great way to take my anger out on it.. years later when i was dating this one girl, she had a copy of that same stupid book.

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  My Mom took all of the Org bibles and put them in the barberquer and tried to light them and they would not burn. It took my brother an hour to burn them completely. It was weird. You'd think lighter fluid would have worked, but it just would not stay burning.
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  I was Molested by my CO grandfather

  by AshtonCA in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was molested by my grandfather from the age of 3 to 7. he was also molesting his daughter (my aunt) and maybe others.

  it was covered over and my entire family was actually shunned when we went to the elders when i was 18. i did not tell anyone about it until then because my grandfather had me believing our relationship was special and it was our little secret.. when confronted, he of course denied it.

  my mother even spoke up of a time when he had tried to molest her when she was 8 months pregnant with one of my brothers.

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  AshtonCA

  Hi all,

  I was molested by my grandfather from the age of 3 to 7. He was also molesting his daughter (my aunt) and maybe others. It was covered over and my entire family was actually shunned when we went to the elders when I was 18. I did not tell anyone about it until then because my grandfather had me believing our relationship was special and it was our little secret.

  When confronted, he of course denied it. My mother even spoke up of a time when he had tried to molest her when she was 8 months pregnant with one of my brothers. I know this happened because I saw it happen with my own eyes and I remember feeling jealous.

  My mother went to my dad but my dad refused to believe her because he couldn't fathom that his own father would do such a thing. My parents did not know that it was happening to me, but my mom had seen my grandfather doing things to my aunt and she told my dad and my dad didn't believe her and nothing was ever done about it. My mother suffers to this day with guilt that she didn't go to the authorities, but my dad being an elder talked her out of it, so she did the good little wife thing and shut up and said nothing, all the while my poor aunt was going through hell.

  When I was 18, we went to the elders about it and they talked to my grandfather and he denied it and they then said there was nothing they could do about it because it was hearsay. We lost all of our friends who were friends with them because they all sided with him against us.

  My grandfather died in '03 at the age of 81 and nothing ever happened to him.

  For a long time, I had wondered if I had made it up in my head, but I don't think so because my mom did say she saw me doing things in public with my grandfather that were just not right and she even confronted him about it and he said nothing was happening that she was seeing things.

  The cover up is unbelievable. It is sad that children are less important than the sanctity of the organization. My grandfather was a bigwig CO in Los Vegas and could never do any wrong. I have suffered all of my life over this and I still have problems with it.

  Thank you for listening.

  Ashton
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  Was Johnny Carson pro JW?

  by HappyDad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone remember one of his shows from the late 1970's when john denver was on the show?

  i never saw the show but heard about it in the jw circle (urban legend??).

  it was known that john denver hated jw's and during their bantering, carson asked denver about his asking jw's to leave during his concerts.

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  AshtonCA

  Hi all, this is my first time posting here.

  I am an x-jw who was one for 23 years, my parents were for 45+ years and my entire family left 10 years ago. I was actually df'd because I chose my boyfriend over the truth, but then after I got married, I tried to come back and did for a little while, but then my whole family got fed up with the misteachings and we all left and am glad for it.

  As for the truth behind this legend, yes it is true, I saw and remember the episode quite well. I remember how my whole family used to listen to JD and had his albums, and then when this happened, it tainted our enjoyment of his albums and we through away his 8 tracks and never listend to him again.

  Ashton