Posts by AshtonCA

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Anyone like me where you still believe in MOST of their doctrines?

by inquirer in

like i don't like that un involvment, record keeping.

i don't know what to think about the paedophile stuff, because you could accuse the catholic church of that too.

but apart from those things i still believe that god's name is jehovah, his son is jesus, no trinity, and he died on a torture stake... i love reading the new world translation, i believe it's the best one, but i love reading other translations too!

AshtonCA

I love reading the New World Translation, I believe it's the best one, but I love reading other translations too!

Inquirer, Here is a website for you about how inacurate the NWT bible is. We also thought it was the best bible out there until we started looking into it. Did you know that the WTS changed a lot of the scriptures to make them fit to their beliefs and teachings? This right here is why this organization is going to be done away with because the bible says not to add to the bible, take away from the bible change it in any way. I hope this website helps you see where maybe it's not best to try to gain all of your bible knowledge for the NWT.

Some feel that the KJV is the best and most accurate, but I find it hard to understand, so I prefer another one that is just as accurate, which is the NIV.

Here is the site. http://www.howellministries.com/nwtperversions.html

Let me know what you think after you read this site.

Ash

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Forbidden Pleasures

by mtbatoon in

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after leaving, what (excluding the obvious bit of slap and tickle) is your favourite forbidden pleasure.

for me black pudding, full of bloody goodness

AshtonCA

oops, I didn't know OS was a sin when I was still JW. My parents never believed that the org had any right to tell them what they could or couldn't do in their bedroom, so they did what they wanted and never told anyone, which is the way it should be anyway. So, we didn't grow up with the knowledge that these things were wrong between mates.

I was doing it with a few friends while I was still JW, but I was doin' it secretly too, I just forwent the marriage part of it lol bad me! yikes! Not proud, just shocked to find out what I was doin' was considered a deadly sin, oops!

Ash

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DO YOU KNOW THE KINGDOM SONG WORDS?????????????

by vitty in

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after being in the org for 20 years, being regular at every meeting.

i must have sung the songs hundreds of times, but i cant sing the first line of any song off by heart..

i asked my husband, kids if they could, they also cant.. can you?.

AshtonCA

Side note, sorry for the double post,

but when I was a kid, I thought that song said "kiss the sun" I could never figure out why Jah would want us to kiss the sun, wouldn't that hurt?? Also, everytime I see Sunkist oranges, I think of that darn song! ahhhh.

Ash

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DO YOU KNOW THE KINGDOM SONG WORDS?????????????

by vitty in

jw
friends

after being in the org for 20 years, being regular at every meeting.

i must have sung the songs hundreds of times, but i cant sing the first line of any song off by heart..

i asked my husband, kids if they could, they also cant.. can you?.

AshtonCA

Kiss the son lest god be angry and you perish in the way. Ours is the god of true prophecy....

lol That first one is actually the one that would get stuck in my head, and I actually found myself trying to find it on the net last month. I think it was the catchiest one they had.

Ash

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DO YOU KNOW THE KINGDOM SONG WORDS?????????????

by vitty in

jw
friends

after being in the org for 20 years, being regular at every meeting.

i must have sung the songs hundreds of times, but i cant sing the first line of any song off by heart..

i asked my husband, kids if they could, they also cant.. can you?.

AshtonCA

LOL love this thread.

My mom used to say out loud at the start of each song, "dirge number 1." or whatever the number was. She hated the songs! There were a couple that I would always get stuck in my head, drove me nuts.

We knew the guy who did the musical score and wrote a lot of the songs, he is responsible for when they redid the songbook back in the 70's or 80's. He was a fabulous pianist, but the songs were just too darn slow and funarial.

Ash

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Is Wearing a Cross wrong?

by AshtonCA in

ever since leaving the org 10+ years ago, i have often wondered about wearing a cross and if it is wrong to do.

i think the jw's see it as an idol, and i do know that the baptists actually pray to the cross because after i left the org, i became baptist for 2 years and they did pray to the big cross on the wall.

i'm not sure i believe that praying to the cross is such a good thing to do, but is wearing one as a symbol of my belief wrong?

AshtonCA

Hmmm, let's see... you left the organization 10+ years ago? And you are worried as to wether it's wrong? Is there still a little influence here somewhere?

Well, my parents haven't completely let go of all of their beliefs from 45+ years of being in the "truth". And it isn't that I need my parents to make my decisions for me, in fact I'm rebelling a bit about other subjects as well (i.e. having a gay person as a close friend). I just wanted to see how others who have left the org. feel about this subject.

Somewhere in the bible (I'm bad at remembering quotes) it says that we have to bare our cross or something like that, I think, so my thought was, if that's the case, why not wear the cross as a symbol of doing just that. I could be completely way off here, I'm working next to no sleep due to a new baby who keeps me up all night lol

Ash

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Is Wearing a Cross wrong?

by AshtonCA in

ever since leaving the org 10+ years ago, i have often wondered about wearing a cross and if it is wrong to do.

i think the jw's see it as an idol, and i do know that the baptists actually pray to the cross because after i left the org, i became baptist for 2 years and they did pray to the big cross on the wall.

i'm not sure i believe that praying to the cross is such a good thing to do, but is wearing one as a symbol of my belief wrong?

AshtonCA

I dont think the baptists would have 'prayed to the cross' although it may have seemed that way. i think they have it there as a reminder of what jesus did, and may look at it to remind themselves, but they would know it was wrong to pray specifically to the cross.

Nope, they specifically bowed down on one knee and prayed up to the cross even going so far as to say Oh heavenly cross, we pray to you for guidance, sor something to that effect. I had never seen it done and I was taken aback.

Ash

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Is Wearing a Cross wrong?

by AshtonCA in

ever since leaving the org 10+ years ago, i have often wondered about wearing a cross and if it is wrong to do.

i think the jw's see it as an idol, and i do know that the baptists actually pray to the cross because after i left the org, i became baptist for 2 years and they did pray to the big cross on the wall.

i'm not sure i believe that praying to the cross is such a good thing to do, but is wearing one as a symbol of my belief wrong?

AshtonCA

As the JWs dont believe Jesus died on a cross, it shouldnt be a problem, now if you wanted to wear a stake that another thing

If I wore one wouldn't I attract flies after awhile? :) Oh wait, that's stake, not steak! sorry lol

Asht

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Let's do something big for this year's memorial !

by Simon in

enough of the wts intimidation and getting away with all sorts of crap.

we, "the people", have more power than they, "the establishment", do.. this year i propose that we make ourselves heard and noticed.

that as many people as possible protest at their beloved memorial - the one event that is "most sacred" to them.. i am not suggesting that we disrupt or do anything illegal but simply that we exercise our right to take up their offer of free wine and make a statement.. go, drink.

AshtonCA

stayed home for the very first time last year. My hubby and I drank the wine and I baked some bread. (Several people had recepies up on the board.) We read the passages from the scriptures and offered prayer. . I may not feel the need to do that this year, but it was sort of tramatic misssing the first memorial. I feel failry ok about it now. I really liked doing my own service.

This sounds just what we do! Good for you and don't stop doing it. Be happy in your celebration, enjoy your family and don't forget to include the passover celebration in this as well. Remember, Jesus was celebrating the Passover when he broke the bread and drank the wine with his apostles.

Also remember that the JW's have the day wrong, they are one day off every year. Passover/Memorial this year is March 23, not 24. I've posted on this subject before :) I think I'm obsessing about it lol

Ash

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Is Wearing a Cross wrong?

by AshtonCA in

ever since leaving the org 10+ years ago, i have often wondered about wearing a cross and if it is wrong to do.

i think the jw's see it as an idol, and i do know that the baptists actually pray to the cross because after i left the org, i became baptist for 2 years and they did pray to the big cross on the wall.

i'm not sure i believe that praying to the cross is such a good thing to do, but is wearing one as a symbol of my belief wrong?

AshtonCA

Hi all,

Ever since leaving the org 10+ years ago, I have often wondered about wearing a cross and if it is wrong to do. I think the JW's see it as an idol, and I do know that the Baptists actually pray to the cross because after I left the org, I became baptist for 2 years and they did pray to the big cross on the wall.

I'm not sure I believe that praying to the cross is such a good thing to do, but is wearing one as a symbol of my belief wrong? My mom can't stand the thought of wearing something that Jesus died on, and she does see it as an idol, but I am not sure I feel that way.

Thanks for your help on this one.

Ash