have NO problem with your beliefs as long as you have no problem with mine.
not at all doogie. we are all free to choose want we want from life
holly
i really like this board.
i hate making this statement bec i dont want you to all start hating me.
but since i came on here i have been researching a lot.
have NO problem with your beliefs as long as you have no problem with mine.
not at all doogie. we are all free to choose want we want from life
holly
i really like this board.
i hate making this statement bec i dont want you to all start hating me.
but since i came on here i have been researching a lot.
What about all the children who have died because their parents refused to let them have a life-saving blood transfusion? These kids didn't have a choice, didn't decide to die - their
there are also parents who allowed their children to have a life saving transfusion, then had to watch their child die from the blood they allowed into their childs body that was contaminated. thats from someone who knows.
i really like this board.
i hate making this statement bec i dont want you to all start hating me.
but since i came on here i have been researching a lot.
o Holly, not sure what the version you are using has, but typically one problem I can think of off the top of my head is the old John 1:1 issue, just about every translation I ever looked at said the Word was God, not was a god, huge difference there
yes i know. i was given an explanation for this but cant remember it now. but if jesus is god, it raises all these other questions that dont make sense:
- why did he say his father was greater than him
- why does the bible say worship only God
-why didnt moses or any of the old testament people worship Jesus
-why did jesus not know the day or the hour
-why in revelation does it depict one throne in heaven, with all those round it worshiping Jehova
-how could Jesus coming to earth as a co-equal with god, have been an equal sacrifice for adams sin. god cannot lie, god cannot sin - if jesus is his co-eternal equal, neither would he have been able to, so it would have been no great deal to come and do the deed of dying.
-satan offered jesus all the kingdom of the worlds. if he had been god, there forever, not created, it would have made satans challenge worthless. he coulda said 'get lost stupid satan, why are you offering me what is mine anyway'. satan wouldnt tempt jesus with something unless he had a viable chance of swaying him, and he could have only swayed him if he was subject to god and not equal.
other stuff, really must go to work, but just wanted to explain my reasonings.
holly
i really like this board.
i hate making this statement bec i dont want you to all start hating me.
but since i came on here i have been researching a lot.
hey everyone, got to go to work soon, so will answer some stuff and get back later.
regarding blood, i wouldnt take it anyway - when you see someone die as a result of a bad transfusion you just dont want to go there. i felt this way long ago, even when i thought the jws were a bunch of lunatics. i wouldnt have an organ transplant either, but thats just me. when my time is up its up. it does say in the new testament 'abstain from blood'. if it said abstain from alcohol, i wouldnt put it in my veins. i know you will have lots of things to say about this, i was on another forum and raised it. this is just how i feel. blood is special - its special to god - its life giving and i think its an important rule in the bible. im fortunate i wouldnt take it anyway, so it will never be an area of controvesy for me, like it is for some.
some of you say the jws are right about some stuff. i believe the bible is the inspired word of god, and some people on this earth have the right message. its been suggested that no one has all the information, that the church might be right about some stuff, and jws about other stuff, and maybe other groups have certain facts right. but the bible says in the last days there will be a witness of the good news of the kingdom, and then the end will come. Now if god wants information to be known, i cannot believe he works through individuals with massively varying opinions and messages. there has to be, if we have a god of order, a united message that is right. whoever these people are have to be of one voice, and from what i can see, there are only the jws with a message of unity.
theres lots i want to say and i dont have the time right now, so just thought i would mention the above.
yes i have read whole chapters of the bible, and not the jw one. ive recently read half of genesis, all of acts, all of john, 1, 2, 3 john, corinthians, james, many of the psalms, hebrews and parts of revelation, along with parts of other books of the bible. i see a clear message that matches everything ive been told by the jws. please dont make the assumption ive been brainwashed.....i spent years in the church accepting what they told me without checking things out. now i am doing. i pray and ask all the time that God show me the truth, bec it is something i really do seek. then i read the bible. and i am still convinced the jws have the right message.
talk later
holly
i really like this board.
i hate making this statement bec i dont want you to all start hating me.
but since i came on here i have been researching a lot.
I really like this board. I hate making this statement bec i dont want you to all start hating me. but since i came on here i have been researching a lot. all the stuff that people comment on, on here. all the stuff the jws have given me to read. jewish history. history of the church. most importantly i have been reading the bible for myself. i read the NIV. i compare with the others, new world, king james and good news. i have read large chunks of it. every time i read it i find the jws quite scriptural. please dont all jump on me. i really dont want to leave this site. just wanted to say this, thats all.
holly
man!
i cannot believe all the attention i got yesterday.. i am a forum celebrity now.
i do sign audigraphs.
hey defd, so come on tell the truth, are you really a jw? have you bin df'd? what you doing here? it would be nice to get some straight answers from you - would love to hear what you got to say.
holly
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basically shake my hand meet and greet type thing.
Yeah sure, if you pay for my flight and hotel
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got asked that question some time ago and have been thinking about it ever since.
any answers?
my 17 year old son being out watching a band play, like he is tonight, and wondering if he will get home safe (i was much more sensible at his age you see ).
and then when i hopefully stop worrying about it, having to go through it all again with my now 13 year old daughter.
phew, whoever told me it was good to have kids!!
holly
i've lurked a bit here a few times and i still can't figure out if this is a site of devout believers who're having crisis issues or if it's an anti-jw site.
personally, i'm basically just curious.
i've been out of the wtbts for a long time now [25 yrs] but my mom is still active and some of my relatives are also.
Welcome Hayley - glad you have you on board there are a diversity of people on here. enjoy your time around the forum
holly
long time, no post.
:) i was just curious when the memorial was this year?
is it at the end of march, at full moon, right?
Im going. never been to one before, so thought id take a look
holly