As I was raised in it, most of the above. However, the biggest threat came from my mother when she explained that it would bring 'reproach on the family, especially my father'.
steve
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which JEHOVAH'S WITNESS SCARE TACTICS kept you from leaving?
by Ms. Whip inmeeting jehovah's witnesses at your door was a fresh, new experience.
they were nice, friendly and smiled real big.
along with your bible study you received an instant life.
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The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories - new - The Long and the Short of It
by RunningMan inand there were giants in those days genesis 6:4
there is a simple principle of physics that has changed the way i look at the universe.
it has also prevented me from being taken in by a huge array of common legends and misconceptions.
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Again, doesn't say he was 13 feet (but I know you know that ; we are dealing with a form of polemics). I think the miraculous things in the OT are as beliveable as the resurrection. Even if you think it to be myth, most myth have some kind of history in it (I like how Schleimann used the Iliad to find Troy).
Oh, absolutely. There are always truths in myths. Be it historical or rhetorical.
As regards the dancing sun, I'll film it for you. Tomorrow if the clouds are right.
steve
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Born In, the Difference
by wanderlustguy inborn in, what difference does it make?
i was thinking about this one a lot over the last few weeks.
what difference does it make whether you were born into a cult or were brought in as a teen or adult?
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stevenyc
Have you ever seen 'The Truman Show'?
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Need help from someone who still goes to the KH
by Unclepenn1 inhello, i havent posted in a while, but have been a member here for a long time, and even back when h20 was going on as well.
i am in the process of writing a book about the watchtower, but need some help from someone who is still in the org, and still goes to the kingdom hall.
i need some materials for research, and was hoping that someone could help me.
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unclepenn,
If you are willing to pay, can't you request a copy from the head office. You could do it through a friend or PO box.
steve
ps, if your around NYC then, I'll go in and get a copy for you if you like.
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Blood oranges-Should you abstain?
by gringojj inwhen oranges are not orange.
by awake!
writer in italy .
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The resplendent Red Orange, how thankful we are!
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DEFINING EVIL in a meaningful way
by Terry inwe always choose the __lesser__of the two evils.. .
we demand of truth that it be consistent and will not accept a grey area of inconsistency.
black and white.
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stevenyc
There is a balance in seperate social structures as to how we define evil in a meaningful way. Also, evil defined, will be in a state of perminent flux between societal peers and history.
Evil cannot be defined absolutly. However, we can measure its shadow. For example, we can define evil as viewed through law. Which, in most places, reflects societies definition as to what is wrong. And, up to, what is evil.
steve
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The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories - new - The Long and the Short of It
by RunningMan inand there were giants in those days genesis 6:4
there is a simple principle of physics that has changed the way i look at the universe.
it has also prevented me from being taken in by a huge array of common legends and misconceptions.
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stevenyc
Just b/c the sun stands still in our perception does not mean that it does so physically
With regard to that account referenced, it happens all time. As someone who films for a living I can demonstrate and if you want I'll write up how it happens in another topic.
To get back to this one, I still can't see what the fuss about the account of a 13 foot man is. The bible is full of absolute rubbish, in the literal sense. I really don't mean to offend, but, it is a book of miracles and supernatural. If you read the stones and structures of that age regarding conquests you will see the same. The underlying message, whether it be history or lesson, may be based on truth for the time, but the text is ancient allegory.
steve
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The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories - new - The Long and the Short of It
by RunningMan inand there were giants in those days genesis 6:4
there is a simple principle of physics that has changed the way i look at the universe.
it has also prevented me from being taken in by a huge array of common legends and misconceptions.
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Sorry if I'm labouring the point, but, how would it fit with the book of Joshua - mythical accounts of an historical events?
steve.
PS Sorry if I'm hijacking a little here.
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The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories - new - The Long and the Short of It
by RunningMan inand there were giants in those days genesis 6:4
there is a simple principle of physics that has changed the way i look at the universe.
it has also prevented me from being taken in by a huge array of common legends and misconceptions.
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classicist
Some parts are literal, some are not, and there are a lot of exaggerations
So, how can you tell what's real and what's not. This is my issue with the bible. Especially with the old testement.
steve
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The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories - new - The Long and the Short of It
by RunningMan inand there were giants in those days genesis 6:4
there is a simple principle of physics that has changed the way i look at the universe.
it has also prevented me from being taken in by a huge array of common legends and misconceptions.
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classist,
Steve, it didn't say he was 13 ft., it said his bed was.
I don't know if you take the bible as literal, so my comment wasn't to you in perticular. I was just stating the obvious. It should not matter to anyone that he could have been 13 foot. If its metaphore, it describes a powerful adversary. If you believe the bible is literal, nothing written can surprise you.
steve