Ask yourself, Why, if we're so close to the end, does a billion dollar corperation still ask for money, while developing, builoding and buying property in Brooklyn? Surely, they could sell up and use the money for the 'final push'.
steve
without use of profanity, vulgarity, or sarcasm.
tell this hypothetical person who is still a dyed in the wool witness clearly why he/she should leave.
do it in such a way that he/she will not bolt for the door screaming "get behind me satan" - in other words, use tact to anti-witness.. jeff
Ask yourself, Why, if we're so close to the end, does a billion dollar corperation still ask for money, while developing, builoding and buying property in Brooklyn? Surely, they could sell up and use the money for the 'final push'.
steve
consider this - job, blameless and upright actually celebrated birthdays with his family.. according to the new world translation job 1:4,5 says this - .
4 and his sons went and held a banquet at the house of each one on his own day; and they sent and invited their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
5 and it would occur that when the banquet days had gone round the circuit, job would send and sanctify them; and he got up early in the morning and offered up burnt sacrifices according to the number of all of them; for, said job, maybe my sons have sinned and have cursed god in their heart.
Good morning all!
Can someone help me out here. When did this rule of not celebrating birthdays come into being. I understand it was a Rutherford seperatist idea. But, when was it announced / written?
steve
apparently the first ever talkie feature film was al jolsons "the jazz singer"but growing up,i was told(via the gift of propaganda) the first ever talkie was the "photo drama of creation"...................please help me with the truth of the matter????
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the following appears to teach the literal return of jesus in visible form to this earth.
how do jehovah witnesses view this verse, and the emphasis of the various phrases (in bold) ?.
acts 1:11 (kjv): "which also said, ye men of galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven?
Hi Trevor,
I've be out of that cult for a while now, but to answer your question it used to be this:
shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven - Jesus went into heaven as a spirit being, and so will return as a spirit being
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things -They believe that Jesus will rule in heaven for one thosand years, until the final matter of Gods right to rule is answered. After that, nobody knows.
steve.
ps welcome to the board.
two leading oncologists both agree that my daughter bethany might be alive today if she had not been fed arsenic.
as you may recall, the wts arranged to take my sick daughter into hiding for two months and payed a doctor to prescribe arsenic.
the doctor ant the wts lawyers convinced bethany that the arsenic treatment could cure her.
It is a posible treatment to use arsnec trioxide. The doctors decide if this is the best treatment given the circumstances.
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two leading oncologists both agree that my daughter bethany might be alive today if she had not been fed arsenic.
as you may recall, the wts arranged to take my sick daughter into hiding for two months and payed a doctor to prescribe arsenic.
the doctor ant the wts lawyers convinced bethany that the arsenic treatment could cure her.
dfed,
Here's a thread for you.
http://www.vueweekly.com/articles/default.aspx?i=2173
Both media and martyrdom played roles in the death of Bethany Hughes. The 17-year-old Jehovah’s Witness was admitted to Calgary’s Alberta Children’s Hospital in February, 2002, with acute myeloid leukemia. Hughes’s doctors estimated her chance of survival was 65 per cent, provided she accepted an immediate blood transfusion and chemotherapy. Without treatment, she would die. Her father, Lawrence Hughes, felt intense religious conflict and sought advice from the Society, doctors and the Bible. Despite his efforts to discuss his concerns and treatment options, he was ignored and angrily shouted down by family and the many Elders who flooded the oncology ward. Two days after Bethany was admitted to the hospital, Hughes signed permission for the blood transfusions to begin and was immediately shunned by everybody he knew.
“She was in constant pain,” Hughes remembers. “She couldn’t even get up to go to the bathroom. After the transfusion, she was almost back to normal!” The doctors gave her mere days to live, but the treatment gave her a chance. Over the next few months, Hughes watched his own daughter physically resist treatment as the Society fought to maintain their control. The blood transfusions were working, and with her cancer in remission, Bethany was discharged from the hospital on July 6, 2002, but Hughes never saw his daughter again. When Bethany relapsed, she was hidden in Edmonton and became an outpatient at the Cross Cancer Institute. On the Society’s recommendation, a course of non-blood, palliative care treatments for an entirely different disease began her rapid decline and by the end of August, she was confined to a wheelchair, blind and in pain. Bethany was rushed to the hospital on September 5, and she died the next day.
This idiocy has to stop.
I'll be there in October.
steve
i'm nena, the wife of tms, who used to post in this forum.
i'm posting a letter i wrote to my younger sister yesterday.
i caught her and my one-year older sister selling my furniture at a garage sale.
Terrible story.
BTW - You / or the Mods. should remove the telephone number!
steve
i came into the org.
30 years ago- long before the 90 pre-baptism questions.
i wondered how the questions now come up to scrutiny with the way various countries are dealing with religions.
The posts contain the older version. I have a copy of the newer version and will copy them up here this weekend. I can't do it now for 'husbandly duties'.
steve
i came into the org.
30 years ago- long before the 90 pre-baptism questions.
i wondered how the questions now come up to scrutiny with the way various countries are dealing with religions.
Ladylee has put together a list of topics at this post: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/32/76757/1.ashx
The first on the list has all the questions.
steve
jws are supposed to interested in performing a "lifesaving work" but the truth is they are more interested in finding not-at-homes than actual people.
and if they do find people, chances are that getting this most important message out to them will not occur because, unless they're invalids, they'll be out when you drop by.
if you don't see a return visit----face to face----for many months, that's not unusual.
Finally, if a JW HONESTLY looked at their own literature, they could not ignore the lies.
Thats not how it works. The 'New Light'(c) ensures the 'Old Light' is switched off.
steve