Posts by stevenyc

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

stevenyc

Those are good ones that I will tell to all my friends when they start telling jokes.

Don't just tell your friends. If you have any integrity to belief in your success here, you would post a link to this thread on your site.

steve

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

stevenyc

Meanwhile we await an answer:
Other than the conclusions of historians based on their interpretation of the secular evidence do you have any scriptural reason whatsoever for arbitrarily deciding that the 40 year desolation never literally happened?
All the 40s mentioned from the Bible above were literally 40 years or 40 days . I saw no symbolism. But even so you must connect the 40 year desolation of Egypt with another part of the bible to show it to be symbolic

Before I answer this, I need to know from you if you believe that the prophecies in Ezekiel are literal. Word for word. steve

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

stevenyc

Thirdwitness

Lets make it clear what you and other posters have said through this long thread. The 'legions' of problems that you have shown us in 'spades' can be summed up in one sentence.
Interpretation by secular historians of the evidence shows no 40 year desolation of Egypt at the hands of Neb therefore what Jehovah prophecied thru Ezekiel cannot be true.

No, its this: Interpretation by secular historians of the historical evidence shows no 40 year desolation of Egypt at the hands of Neb. Therefore, what Jehovah prophesied through Ezekiel is a) true but may have happen at a later date, or b) FIGORATIVE. steve

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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses churches have no windows?

by Kenneson in

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someone asked columnist phillip milano of the jacksonville, florida times union this very question.

you will find remarks of several individuals and the reasons they offer, ranging from deterrence to vandalism, to saving on air conditioning bills, etc.

even j.r. brown gives his two-cents worth and replies to critic paul blizzard.. http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/080106/enm_4104779.shtml

stevenyc

Well, you know the saying, those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

steve

601

For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

stevenyc

scholar,

your a little late to the party mate. We have all already agreed that Tyre was rebuilt. EVEN THE SOCIETY!

steve

601

For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

stevenyc

thirdwitness

Oh, but Alan and Steve and Leo say that it was Neb that was supposed to do this

- referring to the total destruction of Tyre, never to be rebuilt again.

No, you said Axexander did this, which both history and the watch tower society disagree with you.

steve

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If the end is so close, are the elders trying to contact lost sheep?

by JH in

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friends

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i've been hearing left and right that the end is so close now.

ok, but it doesn't show in their actions.. no one is knocking at my door.....

stevenyc

If the end is soooooooooo close, why are they building a HUGE multi-million dollar building of accommodation a couple of blocks from where I live?!?!?!?!

steve

601

For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

stevenyc

Oh thirdwitness,

As to you posting a lightening strike with the obvious implication that we are going to die at armageddon, allow me to quote you a scripture I think apt for this discussion:

1 Corinthians 13:2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

steve

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

stevenyc

thirdwitness, what the hell are you smoking?!?!?! Really, what is it?

The mainland ruins of old Tyre and the underwater ruins of Island Tyre is good enough for me. If you want to quivel and split hairs with Jehovah as to what he meant when he said Tyre would never be rebuilt, then have at it. My advice to others is don't stand to close to you.

steve

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

stevenyc

Okay, lets look at the text again. And note the quotation marks and the plural to see who Ezekiel's prophecy is refering to.

7 "For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said,

(‘)Here I am bringing against Tyre Neb·u·chad·rez´zar the king of Babylon from the north, a king of kings, with horses and war chariots and cavalrymen and a congregation, even a multitudinous people. 8 Your dependent towns in the field he will kill even with the sword, and he must make against you a siege wall and throw up against you a siege rampart and raise up against you a large shield; 9 and the strike of his attack engine he will direct against your walls, and your towers he will pull down, with his swords. 10 Owing to the heaving mass of his horses their dust will cover you. Owing to the sound of cavalryman and wheel and war chariot your walls will rock, when he comes in through your gates, as in the cases of entering into a city opened by breaches. 11 With the hoofs of his horses he will trample down all your streets. Your people he will kill even with the sword, and to the earth your own pillars of strength will go down. 12 And they will certainly spoil your resources and plunder your sales goods, and tear down your walls, and your desirable houses they will pull down. And your stones and your woodwork and your dust they will place in the very midst of the water.(')

Also with you methodology of liguistics verse 10 would imply a single chariot and horse.

Stop your apostate renditioning of what it written.

steve