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Ever thought of going back...

by undercover in

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...and raising hell?.

i read a lot of experiences that so many went through while a jw...the judicial committee meetings, the verbal abuse from elders and pioneers, the intrusion into private matters, the list goes on and on.

i haven't had to endure some of the terrible things that some have endured, though there was always the constant counsel about grooming, music, movies, cars, etc.. sometimes i think, knowing what i know now, that if i ever had to go back for whatever reason, i could really enjoy being a thorn in the side of many of the elders and over-righeous zealots.

Check_Your_Premises

Actually when my wife completes her exit, I have every intention of persuading her to stick around as a mole. I want to work out the details and methods to implode a local congregation. Once I get it down... franchise it baby!

I don't think I will ever leave the wt alone. EVER!

I know so many feel that the right thing is to move on with your lives. On the other hand you have such a wealth of knowledge that could be invaluable to so many. What is that saying? Something about "the only thing needed for evil to succeed is for good folks to do nothing?"

CYP

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Crossing the Rubicon: When has a dub has reached the point of no return...

by Check_Your_Premises in

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how can a person tell when a dub has reached the point of no return?.

how can a dub tell for themselves.. (for those who know my story, don't mistake my question for a hopeful turn of events).

i was just curious how someone determines a person's status re the org with absolute certainty?

Check_Your_Premises

How can a person tell when a dub has reached the point of no return?

How can a dub tell for themselves.

(for those who know my story, don't mistake my question for a hopeful turn of events)

I was just curious how someone determines a person's status re the org with absolute certainty?

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Request for sources of information for overcoming a JW youth.

by truthspokesman in

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what are good books or other sources of information pointing out how to overcome the aftereffects of a jw upbringing?

Check_Your_Premises

for you or a loved one?

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Forgiving and Restoring....my heart is full

by jgnat in

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friends

i am missing myrna again.

this time of year she made sure we all got together.

i am tearing up again in thankfulness.. darn that date snuck up on my calendar, and i was not prepared.

Check_Your_Premises

So what are Canadians celebrating during thanksgiving. For us Yanks it is supposedly the pilgrims making it through the first year and all that jazz. Is it some sort of thanks that the Pilgrims didn't come up to Canada or something?

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Forgiving and Restoring....my heart is full

by jgnat in

jw
friends

i am missing myrna again.

this time of year she made sure we all got together.

i am tearing up again in thankfulness.. darn that date snuck up on my calendar, and i was not prepared.

Check_Your_Premises

It just dawned on me that you are from Canada and therefore you have Thanksgiving at a different time.

Americans.

Have a great thanksgiving JGnat. You have so many folks here that think so much of you. You always give so much to everyone here. Thanks for letting us in on your great day.

CYP

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A question for former jw: Should renewed zealotry be feared?

by Check_Your_Premises in

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i was able to ring some pretty loud bells in the mind of a witness by asking difficult, thought provoking questions.

the person obviously was troubled and was having a hard time rationalizing the items discussed.. now i see a renewed effort and zealotry.

it is obviously the "pendulum" swing i hear so much about.

Check_Your_Premises

The good news is that renewed zeal quickly loses steam.

I hope you are right JGnat. I have learned, however, to never again underestimate the power of mind control.

CYP

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A question for former jw: Should renewed zealotry be feared?

by Check_Your_Premises in

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friends

i was able to ring some pretty loud bells in the mind of a witness by asking difficult, thought provoking questions.

the person obviously was troubled and was having a hard time rationalizing the items discussed.. now i see a renewed effort and zealotry.

it is obviously the "pendulum" swing i hear so much about.

Check_Your_Premises

Thanks all for your comments and grammar check. I try to use good grammar and correct spelling. I think it is important, but I also figure at some point, if people know what I meant, then who the hell cares. Glad to find out I used a real word. (all preceding bad grammar was intentional. I was testing you. )

For the other comments; I appreciate them all. I do understand I am probably the best suited to make this call. I am however so grateful to have other perspectives and experiences to draw from.

I suppose it is difficult to know. Many times two opposing problems will cause the same effect. Pushing to hard can look just like not pushing enough. So I guess if I push and I get more, then the answer is to pull back. If I pull back and I still get more, then the answer is to push.

Yikes!

I guess the key, as any good comedian will tell you, is timing.

Thanks all!

CYP

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A question for former jw: Should renewed zealotry be feared?

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

i was able to ring some pretty loud bells in the mind of a witness by asking difficult, thought provoking questions.

the person obviously was troubled and was having a hard time rationalizing the items discussed.. now i see a renewed effort and zealotry.

it is obviously the "pendulum" swing i hear so much about.

Check_Your_Premises

I was able to ring some pretty loud bells in the mind of a witness by asking difficult, thought provoking questions. The person obviously was troubled and was having a hard time rationalizing the items discussed.

Now I see a renewed effort and zealotry. It is obviously the "pendulum" swing I hear so much about. How should I take this pendulum swing though? Is new zealotry sustainable? Should I fear it? What is the best way to react to the pendulum? Do I try to slow it down by continuing to ask thought provoking questions? Or should I get out of the way and wait for it to lose steam? Any ideas what sort of things I should look for?

I know it is a difficult question since you all don't know the person or the situation. But give me your thoughts, I am sure they will be helpful regardless.

Thanks so much!!!

CYP

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I need some help/advice :-(

by rr8483 in

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friends

dear friends,.

i'm sorry for barging in like this, but i really need some advice.

i am not jw, but my boyfriend is.

Check_Your_Premises

Hey Carla,

If he is being secretive now is that a red flag?

Just trying to clarify.

I hate it when the post fails so I repost only to double post.

CYP

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I need some help/advice :-(

by rr8483 in

jw
friends

dear friends,.

i'm sorry for barging in like this, but i really need some advice.

i am not jw, but my boyfriend is.

Check_Your_Premises

Good stuff JGnat!

Another thought is to try to determine his level of commitment to the idea that jw are one true religion.

Ask him "...on a scale from 1 to 10, how sure are you that the jw are the one true religion?"

Depending on his answer, you might next ask "Have you ever considered that it might not be the right one?".

And maybe the most important one, "If it wasn't, would you want to know?"

Or even "Have you ever looked at information that might suggest jw aren't the right religion?"

"If I found some information that seemed to prove that they were not, would you want me to show it to you?"

Here is a great one, "Have you ever talked to any former witnesses?" "Would you want to?"

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