Lawrence,
I am so sorry for your loss. I hope your efforts are fruitful, and help protect others from a similar fate. I pray that you take some comfort from them as well.
CYP
last friday the judge decided that my wrongfull death suit for my daughters estate can proceed against the watchtower society and its lawyers and the doctors.
the story received national news coverage on saturday and tuesday with alot of coverage on monday.
today, associated press and cnn covered the story which makes it world news.. lawrence.
Lawrence,
I am so sorry for your loss. I hope your efforts are fruitful, and help protect others from a similar fate. I pray that you take some comfort from them as well.
CYP
so this month (march) i promised my mother that i would auxillary pioneer with her.
{that's 50 hours in field service, fyi}.
i was supposed to turn in my application tonight, but alas, i forgot it.
A metaphorical and lyrical representation of the deep shit that we are all in with our families, our friends, and our Big Brothers at Bethel
Preach it brother.
Hang in there. Mine cries one week telling me she isn't happy, and feels like she doesn't even care. Next week she is as zealous and obnoxious as ever.
But they are our loved ones. We can't just stand by while some theological pimp just smacks our loved ones around like 2 dollar hookers. "Bitch better have my service time!!!"
Censer Watchtower esse delendam!!!!
CYP
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anyone seen or heard from crumpet recently, i know she was having a bit of a hard time recently.... matt
Hey Crumpy!
Glad to hear you are ok. I haven't been around so much either. You are always in my thoughts tho.
Cheers.
CYP
here is some news from a source within one of the wts branches:
hot news from todays morning worship announcement worldwide -- letter from gb being read on 1st of march 2006 to every branch (hopefully we will have a copy of the letter soon.).
as of aug. 31, 2006 the bethel elder arrangement will be dissolved!
A Bethel elder not only meets the Scriptural qualifications for elders in a congregation, but does so in a fuller and more complete way...
I missed that one... it reminds me of "all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"
CYP
here is some news from a source within one of the wts branches:
hot news from todays morning worship announcement worldwide -- letter from gb being read on 1st of march 2006 to every branch (hopefully we will have a copy of the letter soon.).
as of aug. 31, 2006 the bethel elder arrangement will be dissolved!
sounds kinda like a purge to me....
...crumbling, ideologically bankrupt, totalitarian regimes always turn on themselves.
how many times were you attacked physically?.
how many times were you attacked verbally?.
how long were you a jw?.
then popped the button on his brolly, it was a 'Boss' brolly
Could you translate that into Yankee English???
how many times were you attacked physically?.
how many times were you attacked verbally?.
how long were you a jw?.
Background:
The reason I am asking about this is because my wife takes my youngest out in service while I am at work. I worry about both of them in general, but also because religion is about the most sensetive area for you to be running around poking strangers.
I printed out the list of local sex offenders so she would know which doors to DEFINITELY not be knocking on! For some reason this simple, common sense measure never occurred to the local boe.
On the one hand I think prostletyzing is a total indoctrination tool, and subjects my kids (can't tell my wife she cant) to unecessary risk. On the other hand my kids only have to endure it until kindergarten.
I am just trying to decide if this is a hill worth dying on. Field service is a big deal to jw's!
CYP
how many times were you attacked physically?.
how many times were you attacked verbally?.
how long were you a jw?.
I think it would be interesting to add two other variables. What era does your experience cover? What part of the country (world).
I figure it would be hard enough to get just the 3 questions answered.
how many times were you attacked physically?.
how many times were you attacked verbally?.
how long were you a jw?.
How many times were you attacked physically?
How many times were you attacked verbally?
How long were you a JW?
I would like it if people would answer all the questions if you don't mind to much. I was trying to get a statistical sample of how often these thing might happen over the course of a jw's career.
what was to be a vacation, turned ugly midweek.
my wife wanted to connect with family, .. and i am all for that.. one uncle and aunt are regular pioneers and he is an elder.
well we met them at their home.
Yeah, they are a pain in the ass aren't they!
The point I have been making to my wife ALOT lately is that whenever a dub rubs me the wrong way, it isn't that I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE JW!!!!
Seriously. Do I care if they believe Michael is Jesus and he returned in 1914 to direct his publishing company?
Hell no!!!
Whenever I have a problem with a dub it is because of the way they behave.
You didn't mind your aunts beliefs. You minded her prattling on and on. You didn't mind your uncle's beliefs. You resented him PRESUMING that your problems were out of some sort of dishonesty or moral failing or petty squables with the "friends".
Hang in there. It isn't you. What is madness to us is comfort to them.
Just don't let your wife make you out to be a bad guy here. Just put it back on them. How would she like someone prattling on to her about how the Catholics are never wrong. After awhile it would be sort of obnoxious wouldn't it? Focus on the behavior. Ignore the doctrine. If you bring the doctrine in, then they are being persecuted!!!
CYP