i was looking at a list today, of countries that have nuclear weapons.
i always think of the united states, russia, france and china.
what shocked me, were pakistan, and india also have nuclear weapons.
Something else I have observed:
If you look at the strategic considerations of nations with nukes, they are almost perfectly analogous to the considerations of individuals with guns.
What I find interesting is that the folks that want to keep other countries from having nukes are usually the folks that want to make getting guns as easy as possible for individuals and vice versa.
Curious.
CYP
i was looking at a list today, of countries that have nuclear weapons.
i always think of the united states, russia, france and china.
what shocked me, were pakistan, and india also have nuclear weapons.
Good question.
Right implies some sort of permission given by some sort of guiding principle.
I guess the claim would be that since we are a legitimately democratically elected government we have the right to tell a dictator since he is just one guy and doesn't (probably) represent the will of his people.
Of course once someone has a nuke, you really can't tell them they can't have a nuke since they now have a deterrent whether you think you have the right or not to tell them.
The problem with the whole "right" thing is figuring out whose guiding principle should be guiding it. Sure you might get some Yankee who says we have the right. But who the hell is going to agree with that who isn't a Yankee?
Maybe a better way to think about it is Cost vs. Benefit coupled with what we Can and Can't do. In fact that is probably a good way to talk about ANYTHING a government does.
So what are the costs of Iran getting a nuke? To us? To the world? What are the benefits?
Once you get that, then ask yourself what can and can't we do about it?
Looking at it from that standpoint, I think it becomes clear that we should pretty much do whatever we can to keep those nutbags from getting nukes. Muslim extremists are like JW's with guns.
they are under construction and i want to download the site for personal use.. cyp.
That sounds about right if I remember....
Yeah, could you send it to me?
they are under construction and i want to download the site for personal use.. cyp.
I saw that one... in particular I was looking for the mirror sites that allow you to download the material.
I haven't gone through that site, and I probably don't have time. I do know quotes pretty well and would really appreciate it if anyone had a copy of it or a link to where I could get it.
CYP
they are under construction and i want to download the site for personal use.. cyp.
They are under construction and I want to download the site for personal use.
CYP
untitled document <!-- .style1 {font-family: verdana} .style2 {font-family: verdana; font-style: italic; } --> discoveries about the organization on the internet admittedly, had it not been for the internet, and all of the dis-.
coveries that were found on it; i would still be one of jehovah's .
witnesses.
Yep. When Gore was running for president. He made a statement that he invented the internet!
I don't think he actually used the words "invented". I believe it was a statement made in context of some legislation that helped fund the connections between university and military computers. I think he said, "I helped create the internet".
But it was a pretty funny statement, reminisent of "making outreageous claims like he invented the question mark". It caught on, and now is firmly entrenched in the American Lexicon. Right up there with "I voted for the war before I voted against it", "strategery", "don't misunderestimate me", and "It depends what the meaning of the word is, is".
CYP
so said an elder's wife who is considered the most respected sister in the congregation.
she said this at my mom's bookstudy where many elderly attend.
when my mother told me what the elder's wife has said, i said, "well, it's better to know now where you stand with jehovah than later, i guess".
At least she now knows she doesn't have to kill herself for Jehovah
Unless she needs blood...
since the entire scriptural, historical, and medical basis for the ban on blood is baseless and incoherent, ultimately it rests on the credibility of the wt as god's organization.. of course we can't rely on that either, because the history of the wt includes a ban on organ transplants and vaccinations.
today they allow those treatments, and therefore by their own admission they incorrectly placed restrictions on them in the past.
unquestionably people died adhering to those restrictions.
Giving this a bump for non-hypothetical reasons
CYP
at it again just as they did with iraq.. no doubt this report was preparation to have something to quote when trying to drum up support for a war.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5346524.stm.
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Humans fight wars because that's what we do. I fear it will never end.
Only the dead have seen the end of war -Plato
at it again just as they did with iraq.. no doubt this report was preparation to have something to quote when trying to drum up support for a war.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5346524.stm.
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From my military friends that have come back from both Gulf wars it is common knowledge within the 'boots on the ground' groups of men and women in the Gulf area that most have been shipped to Syria.
I have heard this but I haven't seen one thread of evidence presented to corroborate it. I have heard it the evidence exists but it has been witheld because the French and Russian governments actually helped the Iraqis remove the stockpiles. Not sure if that passes the sniff test. Why would the Iraqis need their help? Why didn't they find the intact facilities that generated these materials?
One of the great tragedies of the Iraq War was that it deeply discredited the premise of the U.S. removing dictators who have ambitions of creating such weapons programs. If Iran gets nukes because the U.S. is so discredited, then the Iraq War was clearly a critical strategic failure in the war against Islamo-fascism, whether they produce a stable government or not.
CYP
