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I am "open" to the religion. Which is technically true. If a burning bush talks to me, if someone raises someone from the dead, or if someone makes some wine, I am all ears.

But have gone to great pains to show how open to the religion I am. I am not an opposer. I am a very skeptical and thorough UBM. I even have a book study, and I am quite chummy with the PO. He is a real funny guy.

So I do have some room to work here. If I did forbid this, it would piss her off, but I am not sure it would make her think I was an opposer.

I go to some of the meetings! I have a study!

What do you think?

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I was thinking of forbidding my wife from taking the kids out in service

by Check_Your_Premises in

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friends

it is summer time.

the kids are out of school next week.

my wife is a newly dunked dub, who goes out in service on thursdays.

Check_Your_Premises

Let me clarify some points here.

RIght now meetings are optional. The 12yr old goes usually. The 9yr old hardly ever goes. I have done a pretty good job of inoculating myself from all the "Dad is bad" crap.

I spent a great deal of time showing everyone including my wife, that I am a conscientious Christian, and I am not a dub because I am not comfortable with their claims of divine appointment (as opposed to the standard explanation that anyone who is not a dub just wants to smoke pot and bang hookers).

Furthermore I established in their mind that just as your mother sees there being risk to your eternal soul for not joining, I see risk FOR JOINING. I gave them some intellectual and emotional cover.

I wear the pants. If I say they don't go, they don't go.

But I am trying to get my wife to leave. I need her to trust me if I am to do that. So my question here is how much trust will I lose if I put my foot down.

I would put it like this, "I want them to be dubs if they have intellectually established that it is the truth. I don't want them to become dubs because they have been acting like dubs, so they now feel obligated to think like dubs" I have explained cognitive dissonance to her, so that will make sense to her.

(Cognitive dissonance is the theory that our thoughts, actions, and emotions need to be consistent. If an action changes, then our thoughts need to change to be consistent with that aciton. IF they go out in service, they need to change their thoughts to match up with that action)

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I was thinking of forbidding my wife from taking the kids out in service

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

it is summer time.

the kids are out of school next week.

my wife is a newly dunked dub, who goes out in service on thursdays.

Check_Your_Premises

So let me get this right. I am the head of the family and it is my decision if they go.

I am the head of the family and it is my decision if they go.

Thanks for clearing that up and giving me an opportunity to be a smart ass.

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I was thinking of forbidding my wife from taking the kids out in service

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

it is summer time.

the kids are out of school next week.

my wife is a newly dunked dub, who goes out in service on thursdays.

Check_Your_Premises

It is summer time. The kids are out of school next week. My wife is a newly dunked dub, who goes out in service on thursdays. I am a never baptized clandestine opposer UBM. I don't want the 9 and 12 year old out. I would prefer that the 2 yr old didn't either but I don't think it has as much of an effect on her.... yet. The reason why is because going around in field service is a powerful reinforcement of the jw identity. I don't want my kids becoming dubs because they have been running around acting like dubs. My brother lives a block away so I have a place for them to go... the older two anyway. A 2 yr old is a little harder to pawn off. I can make it optional, in which case the 9yr old won't go, and the 12yr old will go sometimes. My brother does have a pool, which might cause his house to win out more often than not. I can forbid it. I would have to give a justification. The only one I can think of is the above one. Is it worth the trouble to forbid it? Will I lose trust with the jw cult member? This is an important consideration since I have worked very hard to restablish trust I lost when I freaked out and called the jw a cult. Any thoughts from my formerly dunked friends here?

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Does anyone know a good source(s) that refutes the Daniel book?

by Check_Your_Premises in

as some of you know, they are getting ready to go through the daniel book.

i don't want to attack the dumb ideas in the book.

i would just like to be able to ask some troubling questions, so it doesn't all take.. cyp

Check_Your_Premises

As some of you know, they are getting ready to go through the Daniel book.

I don't want to attack the dumb ideas in the book.

I would just like to be able to ask some troubling questions, so it doesn't all take.

CYP

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Is there a pre-printed schedule for the Daniel bookstudy?

by M.J. in

i'd like to know which pages will be covered on which week.

where can one find such a thing?.

thanks if you have any info on this.

Check_Your_Premises

MJ,

Dontcha just love Blondie. Everytime I have a tough question, she has the answer.

Sounds like we have some work to do until October.

CYP

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relationship with jw's

by clay in

i stumbled upon this site while looking for help.

my prob is there's this girl i really really like alot.

she's beautiful,smart, has a great personality and i love being around her.

Check_Your_Premises

Good. I was hoping you guys would hook up.

Clay, listen to this guy. Like I said earlier, he is you a few months ago.

Shawn, glad to see you took a break from this place. It was tough watching you spin yourself into a frenzy. It sounds like you have a much better stock of your situation. I hope things are coming along well. It sounds like she is still speaking to you! That is good, I was afraid you burned some bridges with your early frantic efforts. Don't sweat it, we all start out like that.

CYP

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Add your own Awake caption!

by doodle-v in

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friends

ok guys, it's awake caption time!!.

here's a blank one for you to use:.

here is the original one:.

Check_Your_Premises

RR,

The last word is always bigger!

Damn dude, you kill me sometimes. We have to hang out sometime when you are old enough to drink.

CYP

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