A Bethel elder not only meets the Scriptural qualifications for elders in a congregation, but does so in a fuller and more complete way...
I missed that one... it reminds me of "all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"
CYP
here is some news from a source within one of the wts branches:
hot news from todays morning worship announcement worldwide -- letter from gb being read on 1st of march 2006 to every branch (hopefully we will have a copy of the letter soon.).
as of aug. 31, 2006 the bethel elder arrangement will be dissolved!
A Bethel elder not only meets the Scriptural qualifications for elders in a congregation, but does so in a fuller and more complete way...
I missed that one... it reminds me of "all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"
CYP
here is some news from a source within one of the wts branches:
hot news from todays morning worship announcement worldwide -- letter from gb being read on 1st of march 2006 to every branch (hopefully we will have a copy of the letter soon.).
as of aug. 31, 2006 the bethel elder arrangement will be dissolved!
sounds kinda like a purge to me....
...crumbling, ideologically bankrupt, totalitarian regimes always turn on themselves.
how many times were you attacked physically?.
how many times were you attacked verbally?.
how long were you a jw?.
then popped the button on his brolly, it was a 'Boss' brolly
Could you translate that into Yankee English???
how many times were you attacked physically?.
how many times were you attacked verbally?.
how long were you a jw?.
Background:
The reason I am asking about this is because my wife takes my youngest out in service while I am at work. I worry about both of them in general, but also because religion is about the most sensetive area for you to be running around poking strangers.
I printed out the list of local sex offenders so she would know which doors to DEFINITELY not be knocking on! For some reason this simple, common sense measure never occurred to the local boe.
On the one hand I think prostletyzing is a total indoctrination tool, and subjects my kids (can't tell my wife she cant) to unecessary risk. On the other hand my kids only have to endure it until kindergarten.
I am just trying to decide if this is a hill worth dying on. Field service is a big deal to jw's!
CYP
how many times were you attacked physically?.
how many times were you attacked verbally?.
how long were you a jw?.
I think it would be interesting to add two other variables. What era does your experience cover? What part of the country (world).
I figure it would be hard enough to get just the 3 questions answered.
how many times were you attacked physically?.
how many times were you attacked verbally?.
how long were you a jw?.
How many times were you attacked physically?
How many times were you attacked verbally?
How long were you a JW?
I would like it if people would answer all the questions if you don't mind to much. I was trying to get a statistical sample of how often these thing might happen over the course of a jw's career.
what was to be a vacation, turned ugly midweek.
my wife wanted to connect with family, .. and i am all for that.. one uncle and aunt are regular pioneers and he is an elder.
well we met them at their home.
Yeah, they are a pain in the ass aren't they!
The point I have been making to my wife ALOT lately is that whenever a dub rubs me the wrong way, it isn't that I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE JW!!!!
Seriously. Do I care if they believe Michael is Jesus and he returned in 1914 to direct his publishing company?
Hell no!!!
Whenever I have a problem with a dub it is because of the way they behave.
You didn't mind your aunts beliefs. You minded her prattling on and on. You didn't mind your uncle's beliefs. You resented him PRESUMING that your problems were out of some sort of dishonesty or moral failing or petty squables with the "friends".
Hang in there. It isn't you. What is madness to us is comfort to them.
Just don't let your wife make you out to be a bad guy here. Just put it back on them. How would she like someone prattling on to her about how the Catholics are never wrong. After awhile it would be sort of obnoxious wouldn't it? Focus on the behavior. Ignore the doctrine. If you bring the doctrine in, then they are being persecuted!!!
CYP
hi barry, .
noticed you are online, so i wanted to grab you and find out how you perceive seven day adventists compare to jws: .
1 - equally cult like .
and each person is trained to make sure the screen looks the same!
And never forget the extent that each person has so much invested in believing the lie. They need to believe this stuff. It is their protection from the big bad world. They need the fantasy that somebody has all the answers... because they have to many questions. They just don't realize that the one feeding them the answers is just as lost and blind as anybody else.
CYP
okay, so first guy i fell in love with had read papillon and one hundred year of solitude.
i was sold.
the second guy i fell in love with... knew who kafka was.
Finding Faith by Brian McLaren
mine are, in no particular order:.
"the friends".
"glean".
"go to all the meetings" (I hear at every meeting, never read any time I pick up a Bible. God's word or man's?)
"spiritual things" (Only valid activity. Meetings, study, prayer, field service)
"encourages" (intimidate or guilt trip)
"it's just what the Bible says" (a lame attempt at a broad generalization that will hopefully cover up the reality that other people tell me what to think about the Bible)
"spirit directed organization" (lame appeal to authority)