Posts by bennyk

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when is the truth not the truth

by beezknees in

okay i'm still a newbie but i was quite surprised when reading some info of a statement about the 'end being fluid' and that .

'present truth replaces past truth ,however present truth may be replaced by future truth'.

cambridge dictionary definition on truth -the real facts about a situation, event or person.

bennyk

The WT study article for this week includes decapitated quotes from the 1928 WT. Only two sentences before where they begin quoting, the 1928 WT includes a statement regarding the time of the end beginning in 1799. I find this rather at variance with a statement in the 22.01.73 Awake! (p.8): "Based on what [Jesus] said, along with the words of Daniel and John, Jehovah's witnesses pointed to 1914, decades in advance*, as marking the start of 'the conclusion of the system of things.' " This is clearly untrue. And then the footnote:) "see, for example, the Bible Examiner, vol. XXI, No. 1 (Whole No. 313), October 1876, pages 27, 28." (Also, the Bible Examiner article says nothing of the sort.)

Apparently, the WTS does not find it necessary that the "Truth" be true.

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How Long Did it Take You

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

i just looked at my avatar after i made my 500th post here and realized that i have officially signed up on this forum 3 1/2 yrs ago but was lurking for several months prior to that.

now 500 posts isnt that much for over 3 yrs and i am still a jw in "good" standing while so many of you have come here, left, and moved on already.

so how long did it take you to leave after coming here?

bennyk

Some leave before coming here. This is true of a number of the "locals" from Wisconsin, including myself.

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What was the purpose having Eight Day assembly?

by VM44 in

running man has posted his account of an eight day assembly from the 1960s.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/109297/1.ashx.

what i would like to know is, what was the purpose in having eight days for the assembly?.

bennyk

Perhaps it was to mimic the Passover + Feast of Unleavened Bread.

Quite a number of years ago, a Jewish friend told me that to him the WTS "sounds like the fourth branch of Judaism." At the time, I didn't understand what he meant...

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Film Scenes that got burnt onto your memory

by greendawn in

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friends

what were some film scenes that pleased or horrified you so much that they stayed vivid in your memory for a long time?

the one i always recall is the scene where anthony hopkins (playing as hannibal lector) lobotomised ray liotta (paul krendler) cutting off pieces of his brain and giving them to him to eat.

he also took some of liotta's cooked brain in a plane and gave them to an unsuspecting passenger boy sitting next to him to eat.

bennyk

Disclaimer: I have not seen very many films.

In the film "die Bruecke" (1959) there was a split-second scene shot from behind of the silhouettes of two helmeted heads inclined towards each other as the sixteen year old boys spring back up from the safety of their foxhole to man a machine gun. The scene was very reminescent of numerous still shots found in history books and I found it very disturbing. That image has stayed with me throughout the years and even now as I type this my stomache is in a knot as I ask myself: What in God's name were those children doing in a foxhole?

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I left!!!!

by Hawkeye in

this is my first posting on jwd!

i wrote out my disassociation letter.

i am sending many in the congregation copies of my letters exposing the fine "elders".

bennyk

Good on you, friend !!!!

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I'm confused about literature cited....

by Kristofer in

i noticed that some of the literature cited has references to pages in the hundreds like pg 127 etc.... i know the wt publishes books but are there any discrepencies between the original mags published and the bound versions?.

i ask because when i was presenting some info to a friend and gave her the source, she said, "how can that be?

this is a small magazine with only a few pages and you are saying the pages are in the hundreds?".

bennyk

I should note that the Reprints available from the Chicago Bible Students comprise only the years 1879-1916.

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I'm confused about literature cited....

by Kristofer in

i noticed that some of the literature cited has references to pages in the hundreds like pg 127 etc.... i know the wt publishes books but are there any discrepencies between the original mags published and the bound versions?.

i ask because when i was presenting some info to a friend and gave her the source, she said, "how can that be?

this is a small magazine with only a few pages and you are saying the pages are in the hundreds?".

bennyk

The Watch Tower Reprints are a set of six bound volumes printed in 1920(?) comprising the years 1879-1919 (June), and the pages are numbered sequentially throughout the entire set, thus numbering into the thousands.

Incidentally, those Reprints may still be purchased (as a twelve volume set) from the Chicago Bible Students).

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question about reprints of studies in the scriptures

by The Lone Ranger in

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friends

i am sure that the watchtower did reprints of ct russels books of "studies in the scriptures' in the early 80's, can anyone confirm this ??.

what year exactly were they reprinted?

atfer reading the coc book i am convinced that they reprinted them only to prove ray franze wrong, but thats another story.

bennyk

Although the books were altered post-1914, the changes to volumes Two and Three are documented in the 15. March 1915 issue (english) of the Watch Tower.

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Letter following Disfellowshipping

by inbyathread in

here is a letter recently sent to the local elders.

quite small so here it is as i can type it out.

february 1, 2006

bennyk

Yadda,

Among other things, the "Flock" book (pp. 94,95) states:

"Apostasy includes action taken against true worship of Jehovah or his established order among his dedicated people.... People who deliberately spread (stubbornly hold to and speak against) teachings contrary to Bible truth as taught by Jehovah's Witnesses are apostates.... The Bible condemns the following: causing divisions and promoting sects. This would be deliberate action disrupting the unity of the congregation or undermining the confidence of the brothers in Jehovah's arrangement. It may involve or lead to apostasy. (Romans 16:17,18...)"

Romans 16:17 was quoted as an explanation of the Elders' decision to disfellowship the author of the letter.

(Since the Society promotes its own sect and creates divisions by its unscriptural disfellowshiping policy, perhaps it requires disfellowshiping.)

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Comments that made feel pity at last Sundays WT study

by drew sagan in

i believe it was paragraph 17, the one that spoke about the faithful slave and how there are those who wish to be "independent" and that this is wrong.

two comments came, both from elders.

elder 1: so what the paragraph is telling us is that instead of developing an independent spirit we actually want to be developing a spirit of dependece upon god's organization and the spiritual food they provide.

bennyk

Sadly, this isn't really anything all that new, and the two Elders are not simply "loose cannons". The Society has been encouraging this sort of nonsense for a long time. Anyone remember the cover article from the 01. March 1979 (english) Watchtower: "Put Faith in a Victorious Organization" ?

On a personal note, in similar vein I recently received correspondence from an Elder "encouraging" me to return to congregation meetings, etc. He requested I ignore the troubled history of the WatchTower Society and 'develop confidence in the Faithful and Discrete Slave'. The irony of this is that -- while yet a Witness -- I had professed to be anointed...