(((HUGS))) Krystal
I think we've all shed some tears with respect to being in, leaving and suffering as a result of that organization. Welcome to the board and I hope you get as much out of it as I have...
adelmaal
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*Tears*
by Krystal ini am 20 years old and i left the organization when i was 17. there are of course many gorey details which i will not get into right now... but i just wanted to say how happy i am to have found this fourm.
as many of you remember, we were always instructed not to read anything about jehovah's witnesses that wasn't written by the organization.
well, that instruction stuck, and this is the first time i three years that i have dared to even look.. needless to say, i found some very disturbing information.
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A comment I heard tonight
by Generic Man intonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.
the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.
through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.
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adelmaal
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/85391/1.ashx I have been so happy to ... get involved in the community and politics and to just be a part of society. I have no clue where to go with my spiritual life though... -- adelmaal .
ROFLMAO!Funny how you selected a tiny portion of my very first post here at JWD out of some 340+ since... Yes, I have been in a growth process spiritually. I'm glad you find it humorous that my having been a part of the JWs left me spiritually stunted. I, unlike you, admit that I do not have all the answers and I am seeking them. Just to ensure you do not quote me out of context, below is the entire portion of my post you picked apart above:
I am so glad to have found this site Let me tell you a little about myself...
I was not raised a Jehovah's Witness. I studied as a teenager with my boyfriend's sister. We both ended up getting baptized (I was 17). I quickly became a pioneer and eventually gave multiple assembly parts, etc. (I was a Witness for about 10 years; my family freaking out the entire time because they were not Jehovah's Witnesses). My family tried to have a preacher come when I was studying and he walked away with his tail between his legs. My friend's mom also tried to speak with me and she got nowhere. I really thought I had found "the truth". Everything looked so perfect then. I skipped college to pioneer, I alienated my family and "worldly" friends and I feel I missed out on so much; including my youth.
Eventually, I ended up divorced, disfellowshipped and alone. I decided to get reinstated and it took me extra long because my ex's dad was the PO and made it really difficult for the elders in my new congregation to reinstate me. So I went to meetings for over a year disfellowshipped with a newborn and 3 year old by myself feeling completely alone. I must have been a glutton for punishment! I later realized how unhappy, unsupported and overburdened I was in that religion and I just drifted away from it about 5 to 6 years ago. The elders would visit me periodically and it took me awhile to get to the point where I eventually told them I was happy and uninterested in being visited any longer. I told them I wanted to live my life and my personal relationships and feelings were none of their business. I was so proud of myself. I would have disassociated myself but thought it would cause lots of problems in dealing with my daughter's dad and his family because the were/are JWs. I also did not want them telling my daughter I was dead in God's eyes and I was going to be destroyed (not that they don't say those things anyways). My daughter is now 10 and she is exposed to the meetings and field service 50% of the time as we have joint custody. I have been so happy to rediscover relationships with my family, to get involved in the community and politics and to just be a part of society. I have a wonderful husband, three great children and I feel like I have re-discovered life. I have no clue where to go with my spiritual life though... I feel like I cannot get involved in any organized religion and I just don't know what truth is anymore when it comes to religious beliefs and the Bible. I try my hardest to be a kind, loving and understanding person. To help as much as I can and to take care of my family and help them to be good people. I disagree with allot of Jehova's Witnesses' practices and beliefs but I have not been able to find my own spiritual beliefs. I just ordered "Crisis of Conscience" and the other book by Brother Franz and I am finally going to start reading the Bible again. I have had no relationship with God since I left the organization. I have been so much happier in every other aspect of my life though and I feel so much less judgmental and so much more accepting and loving than I did when I was in that religion. I worry about my daughter allot though. It's drama when she wants to celebrate holidays, salute the flag, have worldly friends, etc. at school and when she is with us and yet she will get in trouble for doing those things when her dad or his family (he's 33 and still lives with them) finds out. She is too young to take a stand over there because she will get in trouble, get lectured and be made to feel bad. So I think she just tries to lead a double life and lie to them about it. So then they think we are forcing her to do things that bother her conscience. It's drama! It's not right and they expect everyone else to bow to their way of doing things while they are completely intolerant of any other way of doing things. They always play the "it means her everlasting life" card. Can you tell I'm frustrated... My daughter is being pulled in two different directions and I just keep telling her that her dad's house and our house are different. We have different beliefs. It is good to be exposed to different ways of doing things and when you are old enough you will decide how you want to do things in your house. I let her know we love and support her decisions and we will accept her no matter what she decides. I let her know she is not allowed to get baptized until she is 18 though because she is not old enough to decide how she wants to live the rest of her life. I know her dad and his family have an altogether different view though and they tell her she will die or she will displease Jehovah if she doesn't do things there way. I just don't quite know how to deal with such powerful arguments and daily teachings... Ok. So that was allot about myself - LOL. Anyways, I've babbled long enough. I'm happy to have found people who understand what it's like to have been a JW or to be a JW or even just to be close to someone who is a JW. I wish you all the best!
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Move on...
by mrsjones5 inas i was taking my shower this morning i was musing about certain posts i had read the day before.
the one about the tampons just tickled me to no end.
crazy stuff people will do to enforce whatever crazy ideas they have about human sexuality.
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adelmaal
IMHO - It's racist to hold someone accountable for something done by his/her ancestors. Personally, that's what Country Girl was trying to get accross.
IMHO - It's also racist to tell people who feel Africa is there heritage to just go back there (don't quote me here cause I'm just going off memory of the post). Personally, that's what I would have taken offense to in
Country GirlCountry_Woman's post.I get where she was coming from and at the same time I think it could have been stated more tactfully.
I say smooches to everyone !
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Evil Lives Monday, April 11, 2005
by apocalypse inevil lives
monday, april 11, 2005
-if ever in your mind you wonder as to whether the leadership at watchtower has some level of sincerity, or perhaps as you move deeper into your pursuit of the real truth, you find yourself having doubts that you are doing the right thing in "doubting" the watchtower ?then read on.
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adelmaal
No plague or miracle- not even the loss of his firstborn son- was able to persuade Pharaoh that Moses was speaking on behalf of Jehovah.
That's too funny! The plagues are exactly what persuaded Pharaoh that Moses was speaking on behalf of Jehovah. Complete opposite of what was stated in the article.
Personally, I don't believe the whole point of the plagues was to persuade Pharaoh that Moses was speaking on behalf of Jehovah though... Were they not to prove that Jehovah was the true God?
If God were in the practice of performing miracles or issuing plagues to prove that he had a mouthpiece on earth would he not have issued a miracle or plague to point to the WTBTS as the FDS? Hmmm... Where's their miracle? Are they making up excuses for not having one?
Interesting point...
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A comment I heard tonight
by Generic Man intonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.
the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.
through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.
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Some people continue to read what I have to say because they're not sure of themselves. Another reason is that they know that I'm able to defend all that I say. Of course people like you, Lilbit, would prefer that I go away because of the path you've chosen to follow. Even if everyone here were to ignore what I post there are untold thousands who silently observe the exchanges here at JWD, and they see how shallow the minds are of those here who condemn the WTS for having become an NGO.
ROFLMAO!
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JW work situation
by pratt1 ini work for a rather large financial institution in nyc.
i run a large profit center and manage over 100 people.
on of my best workers is a dub doing a slow but progressive fade.
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adelmaal
that you are sending a letter to her body of elders about her dispicable "revealing of confidential matters" to people who have no connection to the problem
While that sounds gratifying it would also constitute workplace harassment. You would want to keep things professional. No need to bring religion into the workplace when you are counseling someone on keeping it out of the workplace...
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JW work situation
by pratt1 ini work for a rather large financial institution in nyc.
i run a large profit center and manage over 100 people.
on of my best workers is a dub doing a slow but progressive fade.
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adelmaal
Apparently the fader was DFed Friday night. The "Over Zealous Dub" announced this to several other employees and stated that she would no longer have any dealings with the fader. She also revealed the nature of his "Sin".
This is considered harassment to the fullest extent in my book! She should definitely know that if she continues to harass her workmate her job will be in jeapardy... She's slandering the individual at work - religion or not.
I worked with a DF'd woman and a DA'd woman when I was a dub and I had no issues with them. I figured they deserved to be treated as anyone else would be at work and I did not bring my religious opinions into the workplace. Looking back now I'll bet they appreciated that. Some people can be so callous and immature!!!
Your fader workmate must be so stressed out right now and she has to go and make trouble for him/her at work as well... He/she has certainly got the makings of a lawsuit if this is not handled with her soon.
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Can it be proven that the WTS is NOT God's personal organization?
by M.J. inimagine trying to prove to someone that firmly believes in leprechauns that they simply don't exist.
where do you start?
an excellent saying i have heard is "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Personally, I would think they need to prove that they are God's personal organization and not vice versa. If you make a claim you must prove that claim, right? Granted, "Crisis of Conscience" pretty much blows there claims right out of the water...
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The "class thingy" is purely based on how many posts you have made I believe.
Once you hit 100 posts you are no longer a "newbie" I believe...
Welcom to the board :)
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JW work situation
by pratt1 ini work for a rather large financial institution in nyc.
i run a large profit center and manage over 100 people.
on of my best workers is a dub doing a slow but progressive fade.
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adelmaal
I have not yet read the responses but someone on this board (screen name Sassy) has been in the position of the fading dub. She took the matter to HR and HR handled it. From what I gather HR let the over righteous dub know she was not to bring religious matters into the workplace and that it would be considered harrassment if she did so. The over righteous dub was treatened with losing her job. They also let her know she was not allowed to release personal information protected by the privacy act regarding other employees (such as work telephone, address, home phone, etc.).
I would communicate to them both that while at work they are to carry on a work relationship. When communications are strained it affects the overall work environment and these two need to be able to put religious differences aside and work together. If either of them is unable to do so then I would make sure they know it will mean their job.
The poor fader is lucky to have a boss such as yourself.