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Court orders Jehovah's Witness boy be given blood transfusion
by purplesofa incourt orders jehovah's witness boy be given blood transfusionsean fewster from:adelaidenow june 04, 2010 7:12pma hospital has won the right to give a child potentially life-saving blood transfusions despite the religious objections of the boy and his family.. in a south australian legal first, the supreme court this afternoon gave the women's and children's hospital the right to give a 10-year-old boy - a member of the jehovah's witness faith - transfusions as part of his cancer treatment.. the decision, in line with similar rulings from around the world, paves the way for hospitals to take action in future debates with religious parents.. the boy is suffering from an aggressive form of cancer that doctors fear will spread throughout his entire body if not treated with an intense 39-week regime of chemotherapy and surgery,adelaide now reported.. .
the speed of that process will not allow his blood cells time to regenerate, meaning he will require transfusions so that the chemotherapy can continue unabated.. in a statement read to the court, the boy said transfusions carried spiritual consequences.. "the doctors have told me i might die and i don't want to - but i don't want blood," he said.. "the blood will change me... when you take blood, you are taking someone else's life.. "i really don't want this and my heart is ripping apart.".
read more about the court's blood transfusion order at adelaide now.. .
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Court orders Jehovah's Witness boy be given blood transfusion
by purplesofa incourt orders jehovah's witness boy be given blood transfusionsean fewster from:adelaidenow june 04, 2010 7:12pma hospital has won the right to give a child potentially life-saving blood transfusions despite the religious objections of the boy and his family.. in a south australian legal first, the supreme court this afternoon gave the women's and children's hospital the right to give a 10-year-old boy - a member of the jehovah's witness faith - transfusions as part of his cancer treatment.. the decision, in line with similar rulings from around the world, paves the way for hospitals to take action in future debates with religious parents.. the boy is suffering from an aggressive form of cancer that doctors fear will spread throughout his entire body if not treated with an intense 39-week regime of chemotherapy and surgery,adelaide now reported.. .
the speed of that process will not allow his blood cells time to regenerate, meaning he will require transfusions so that the chemotherapy can continue unabated.. in a statement read to the court, the boy said transfusions carried spiritual consequences.. "the doctors have told me i might die and i don't want to - but i don't want blood," he said.. "the blood will change me... when you take blood, you are taking someone else's life.. "i really don't want this and my heart is ripping apart.".
read more about the court's blood transfusion order at adelaide now.. .
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purplesofa
I find it odd that the judge finds the parents loving and caring and has the childs best interest at heart
but had to order a blood transfusion to save the boys life.
purps
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Court orders Jehovah's Witness boy be given blood transfusion
by purplesofa incourt orders jehovah's witness boy be given blood transfusionsean fewster from:adelaidenow june 04, 2010 7:12pma hospital has won the right to give a child potentially life-saving blood transfusions despite the religious objections of the boy and his family.. in a south australian legal first, the supreme court this afternoon gave the women's and children's hospital the right to give a 10-year-old boy - a member of the jehovah's witness faith - transfusions as part of his cancer treatment.. the decision, in line with similar rulings from around the world, paves the way for hospitals to take action in future debates with religious parents.. the boy is suffering from an aggressive form of cancer that doctors fear will spread throughout his entire body if not treated with an intense 39-week regime of chemotherapy and surgery,adelaide now reported.. .
the speed of that process will not allow his blood cells time to regenerate, meaning he will require transfusions so that the chemotherapy can continue unabated.. in a statement read to the court, the boy said transfusions carried spiritual consequences.. "the doctors have told me i might die and i don't want to - but i don't want blood," he said.. "the blood will change me... when you take blood, you are taking someone else's life.. "i really don't want this and my heart is ripping apart.".
read more about the court's blood transfusion order at adelaide now.. .
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Court orders Jehovah's Witness boy be given blood transfusion
- SEAN FEWSTER
- From: AdelaideNow
- June 04, 2010 7:12PM
A HOSPITAL has won the right to give a child potentially life-saving blood transfusions despite the religious objections of the boy and his family.
In a South Australian legal first, the Supreme Court this afternoon gave the Women's and Children's Hospital the right to give a 10-year-old boy - a member of the Jehovah's Witness faith - transfusions as part of his cancer treatment.
The decision, in line with similar rulings from around the world, paves the way for hospitals to take action in future debates with religious parents.
The boy is suffering from an aggressive form of cancer that doctors fear will spread throughout his entire body if not treated with an intense 39-week regime of chemotherapy and surgery,Adelaide Now reported.
The speed of that process will not allow his blood cells time to regenerate, meaning he will require transfusions so that the chemotherapy can continue unabated.
In a statement read to the court, the boy said transfusions carried spiritual consequences.
"The doctors have told me I might die and I don't want to - but I don't want blood," he said.
"The blood will change me... when you take blood, you are taking someone else's life.
"I really don't want this and my heart is ripping apart."
Read more about the court's blood transfusion order at Adelaide Now.
Court orders Jehovah's Witness boy be given blood transfusion
- SEAN FEWSTER
- From: AdelaideNow
- June 04, 2010 6:40pm
A HOSPITAL has won the right to give a child potentially life-saving blood transfusions despite the religious objections of the boy and his family.
In a South Australian legal first, the Supreme Court this afternoon gave the Women's and Children's Hospital the right to give a 10-year-old boy - a member of the Jehovah's Witness faith - transfusions as part of his cancer treatment.
The decision, in line with similar rulings from around the world, paves the way for hospitals to take action in future debates with religious parents.
The boy is suffering from an aggressive form of cancer that doctors fear will spread throughout his entire body if not treated with an intense 39-week regime of chemotherapy and surgery.
The speed of that process will not allow his blood cells time to regenerate, meaning he will require transfusions so that the chemotherapy can continue unabated.
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</form></form>In a statement read to the court, the boy said transfusions carried spiritual consequences.
"The doctors have told me I might die and I don't want to - but I don't want blood," he said.
"The blood will change me... when you take blood, you are taking someone else's life.
"I really don't want this and my heart is ripping apart."
On May 10, doctors discovered a tumour in his left leg.
He commenced treatment and has so far had four weeks of chemotherapy.
He is due for more on Monday but, when doctors said he may need a blood transfusion as well, the family objected.
In the Jehovah's Witness faith, transfusions are not permitted because of a Bible verse that says one must "abandon from blood" to "keep well".
The hospital asked the court invoke its power of parens patriae - to look after those incapable of doing so - and over-rule the family's objections.
Today, pediatrician Tamas Revesz, told the court the regime was "the gold standard" and had a 70 per cent survival rate.
Other options, such as amputation, had a 30 per cent survival rate.
"This is a disease that is otherwise universally fatal," he said.
"The longer we delay, the chance of survival decreases considerably and the chance the disease will come back and be untreatable increases."
The boy's father said the application felt like "an unwanted attack" on his family's beliefs.
"I love my son, I love him more than I love myself," he said.
"If the court orders a transfusion, I will love him the same as before, and I will follow the law.
"But my son will suffer emotional and spiritual consequences for the rest of his life... he will always, in his own head, be unhappy."
In his statement, the boy said he feared a transfusion would "make the Creator unhappy".
"If I listen to my Creator then there will be a Paradise, which is like a new life," he said.
"If I die, I will get another chance of living.
"But I still want to live now because I'm finding my life really good and I'm liking it."
In his ruling, Justice Richard White said the boy's parents were "loving and caring" and had their son's "best interests at heart".
He said it was important to consider the boy's religious beliefs and attitude toward transfusions.
"Whilst I respect the religious beliefs of the boy and his family, and the strength of their faith and convictions, I am satisfied it is in his best interests to receive transfusions," he said.
"He otherwise risks the grave consequence... of a painful death within a matter of weeks or months."
The Women's and Children's Hospital did not seek to recover its legal costs.
The parents declined to comment outside court.
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The God Delusion
by alice.in.wonderland inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_god_delusion.
the god delusion is a 2006 bestselling non-fiction book by british biologist richard dawkins, professorial fellow of new college, oxford, and inaugural holder of the charles simonyi chair for the public understanding of science at the university of oxford.. .
in the god delusion, dawkins contends that a supernatural creator almost certainly does not exist and that belief in a personal god qualifies as a delusion, which he defines as a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence.
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Fell off the wagon today
by 5thGeneration inone year sober.
got bombed today.
really upset at myself.
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purplesofa
Last night I watched an interview with Tony Curtis (the actor) I was surprised to learn he had a problem with drugs and alcohol.
His family did an intervention and he went through the Betty Ford Treatment Center.
He said that he would stay clean/sober and messed up various times in his recovery
with sobriety times lasting longer and longer in between mess ups.
At the time of the interview He has been sober 15 years.
It seems to have been a process for him over a long period of time.
He says he is happier now than he has ever been in his life. (I don't know what year the interview was done)
Hang in there,
purps
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The God Delusion
by alice.in.wonderland inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_god_delusion.
the god delusion is a 2006 bestselling non-fiction book by british biologist richard dawkins, professorial fellow of new college, oxford, and inaugural holder of the charles simonyi chair for the public understanding of science at the university of oxford.. .
in the god delusion, dawkins contends that a supernatural creator almost certainly does not exist and that belief in a personal god qualifies as a delusion, which he defines as a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence.
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purplesofa
What do you think of the atheist idol, Richard Dawkins? Jehovah's Witnesses aren't mention in his book or in Bill Maher's Religulous:
yes, they are mentioned in his book,
might be good to read the book yourself.
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Ray Franz Tribute
by besty inover at freeminds we didn't want this day to pass without some recognition of the life and death of ray franz.
in view of his stated wishes not to have a memorial or service we hoped for something that he would have liked for all of us to take a moment over.. .
we owe a note of thanks to v for his graphics work and atjeff for the obituary writing - i know neither of them need mentioned by me.. .
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purplesofa
very nicely done.
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purplesofa
very nice
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Ray Franz has had a stroke
by coffee_black injust setting the record straight.
there is another thread that notes a claim on wiki that said that ray has died.. he had a stroke yesterday, and is in the hospital.
he is still alive.
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purplesofa
When I first started posting here my nickname was Thinking.
As I read CoC I was deeply moved, awakened, sickened, grateful,
empowered, and freed.
I changed my name to purplesofa at this site.
Reading Rays book gave me the courage to not hide.
Thank-you Ray Franz, forever a soft spot in my heart.
My heart goes out to his wife, Cynthia and all those that
were close to him.
When I think I Ray, I smile peacefully.
an excerpt from my first post as purplesofa at this board.
I am on Chapter 4 of the CoC book. My stomach turns and my head hurts.
I am not ashamed of who I am or my presence here at this site. If anyone I know comes here I would be shocked, and if they get far enough into the site to find me then we probably got some talking to do.
I am sorry for any confusion as I will no longer be using Thinking as a nickname here. This seems so dramatic but under the circumstances.......I think I will be grieving alot of my life as a JW for a period of time. I do not wish to be grieving who I am on top of that.
So this is me on the world wide web......purplesofa. When I would the nick Thinking it is just not me. I mean it is but .......you get the drift!
Greetings to all.
Since you all gave me a nice warm greeting already. It's not really necessary to do it again. I am gonna be around.
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Ray Franz has had a stroke
by coffee_black injust setting the record straight.
there is another thread that notes a claim on wiki that said that ray has died.. he had a stroke yesterday, and is in the hospital.
he is still alive.
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