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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?

by seek2find in

the cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?

" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.

isn't this deceptive?

seek2find

OK Cindi: You sound like a good witness. I'll accept your (their) explanation, even tho I don't agree with it. Since you sound like such a good witness, might I ask What are you doing here???? ( A Joke, Just kidding):) seek2find

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Can someone help me out?

by Nancy Drake in

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i'm looking for the art that was in the back of the "sing praises to jehovah" songbook.

i tried some image searches, but no luck.

anybody know where i can find this without actually purchasing the book?

seek2find

Is it the one that has the extra set of legs? seek2find

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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?

by seek2find in

the cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?

" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.

isn't this deceptive?

seek2find

OK, Fisrt let me say. This is not an argument. Just like Cindi said.

Cindi: So if he was installed as King in 1914 didn't he come to his throne at that Time? Normaly, if a person is present somewhere, they had to come there to be present. Right? seek2find

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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?

by seek2find in

the cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?

" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.

isn't this deceptive?

seek2find

Cindi: Do I understand you correctly that he wasn't installed as King in heaven in 1914? please see below from the 1988 Watchtower.

9/15/88 Watchtower says:

16 By rebelling, Zedekiah wounded himself in a deadly way. (Read Ezekiel 21:25-27.) When Judah’s king was deposed, the royal turban and the crown were removed. (2 Kings 25:1-7) The “high” kingdom of Judah was ‘brought low’ by being destroyed in 607 B.C.E. Thus the “low” Gentile kingdoms were “put on high,” leaving them in control of the earth without interference by a typical kingdom of God. (Deuteronomy 28:13, 15, 36, 43, 44) So began “the appointed times of the nations”—the Gentile Times—that ended in 1914 when God conferred kingship upon Jesus Christ, ‘the one having the legal right’ to it. (Luke 21:20-24; Psalm 110:1, 2; Daniel 4:15-28; 7:13, 14) With Jesus on a heavenly throne, Gentile nations cannot trample upon what ancient Jerusalem symbolized, the Kingdom of David’s legal heir.—Hebrews 12:22.

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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?

by seek2find in

the cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?

" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.

isn't this deceptive?

seek2find

Hey, this is a good exercise for me to remember those things. Keep it coming if you would, please. Let's see how far we can go.

OK Cindi, Here we go. Can you clarify this? If Jesus returned to heaven upon his Death didn't his "presence" in heaven begin at that time? And also hadn't he been present there before comming to Earth? If his "Presence"began with taking Kingship in 1914. Didn't he Come to the Throne at that time? Also Ps. 110:1 says "The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is:“Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet" If he assended the throne in 1914 according to this scripture wouldn't all his enemies have been removed at that time? seek2find

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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?

by seek2find in

the cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?

" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.

isn't this deceptive?

seek2find

I don't want to create any controversy or sound like I am defending them, but as far as I can remember, and while I was still active, I remember learning that Christ was "present" (parousia = presence) not that he had already come in 1914, just that his kingdom was present and that he had sat down on his throne, awating the right moment to act.

Beleive me, I don't want controversy either. Maybe the problem Is that I've never really understood the "Presence" thing. So let me ask how could someone be present without comming? Could I myself ever be in your presence unless I came to where you are? The society has said that he assumed kingship in 1914. How could he do so without comming to take seat on his throne? seek2find

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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?

by seek2find in

the cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?

" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.

isn't this deceptive?

seek2find

Are they showing people in the ancient robe atire? or are they wearing todays clothing?

The cover shows a group of nicely dressed modern day people from different culcural backgrounds looking slighty up and to their right. That's why I feel it's deceptive. If the picture would have been of people that were dressed in 1914 vintage clothing with beards and tophats and had they not been looking skyward, my impression would have been different. seek2find

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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?

by seek2find in

the cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?

" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.

isn't this deceptive?

seek2find

Aude: That's what I was thinking. The study copy of the Watchtower will become another Kingdom Minstry type publication, that is not digestable by the public untill they become fully conditioned. seek2find

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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?

by seek2find in

the cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?

" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.

isn't this deceptive?

seek2find

The reason I felt that this paticular article was deceptive was because It used the title about Jesus comming that most non witnesses associate with Jesus words at Matt. 24:3 which the NWT translates as "Presence". I just hope some householders ask when the magazine is offered to them something like this. "Oh, I thought Jehovah's Witnesses thought Jesus returned in 1914" And then ask the publisher to explain. This could turn out as confusing in some minds as the Article in yesterdays Watchtower Study about the first resurection. Somehow I don't beleive Jesus intended the Gospel message to be near this confusing. seek2find

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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?

by seek2find in

the cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?

" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.

isn't this deceptive?

seek2find

Rooster, You can't subscribe anymore anyway, you've got to get them from the Hall or an active witness. seek2find