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  What would keep you in?

  by DisconnectingDrone in

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  for those still "in" but looking for an exit, what changes to current practices/teaching would make you decide to stay "in" ?

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  Well, now that I'm out nothing can keep me in. However to get me to go back, several things would have to happen. First more emphasis on the Bible alone as the guide for our lives. Admission that literature is supplemental and as such, is not the word of God. The Faith full slave teaching and the 1914 doctrine would have to go also, or be modified so that full acceptance is optional. These changes are not likely. So I guess, I'm permanently out. seek2find
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  Let Us Now Welcome CandleLight ...

  by snowbird in

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  welcome and thanks for your positive posts.. sylvia.

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  seek2find

  Welcome candlelight and husband! You guys are great. Stick around and help make this a more positive place! PLEASE! seek2find
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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

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  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  Thanks for the info Tom. seek2find
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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

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  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  To inthepink: It's not in the PDF copy and there is no listing in the index for either of those names. What is the date of your copy? I wonder if it got left out of the newer editions and why? seek2find
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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

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  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  Hi, I looked in the index but couldn't find any reference. The old copy that i read had several abedmums or updates (however it's spelled) in the back, and what I read may have been in one of these. But the jest of it was one of these Guys approached a governing body member after his calls to request an appointment had been ignored, and when he stated that he had called several times. The response was Yeah, i heard the tapes, and the visitor said what tapes? The point was made that Bethel had a practice of recording phone calls without the callers knowledge. seek2find
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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

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  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  Hi Blondie, Thanks for the suggestion. I just hate to bother him with, especially if I'm just overlooking it. I was hoping someone else remembered it and could tell me where to look, if I find it I will post the page reference Thanks again. seek2find
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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

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  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  The first time I read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s. That copy was burnt by a family member and I no longer have it. In the newest version which I downloaded in PDF I'm having trouble finding a particular part. It was about 2 men that came over from someowhere in europe after ray was dismissed from bethel and wanted to talk to the governing body about the issue, and were rejected after some phone messages that were not returned one of them found out that their phone calls to Bethel had been recorded. Does anyone know where I can find this account. I must be overlooking it, or it must have been edited out of the newer version. Thanks in advance for your help. seek2find
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  How did you find JWD?

  by sweet pea in

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  prompted by the thread about jwd v wts i wondered how many of you found jwd via the internet or friends/partners?

  what were your first impressions?

  i found this site through besty (husband) once my faith had crumbled after reading www.jwfacts.com.

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  I came here upon the collapse of the old hourglass 2 outpost. That was when this board was new. It took a long while before I started posting. seek2find
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  Names have been changed. Why?

  by easyreader1970 in

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  the only time that the watchtower publication uses the real name of a person mentioned is when it's some biographical experience that is the entire article.

  anytime a witness is quoted in an article or other publication, they always include a footnote.

  "i studied medicine because i wanted to use my life to help people.

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  If memory serves me correctly, they got burned once on a story they did on Mickey Spilane where they used his name and then at a later time he fell away and was disfellowhipped and went on to write some material they weren't proud of. Latter he was re-instated and still professed to be a witness just not as strong as before. So after that for a long time they Just labeled personal experience articles as contributed, and then eventually they went back to using names sometimes and other times as you mentioned they used made up names. Another saga in the ever shifting world of JWs. seek2find
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  Hi everyone I am a newbie and I need help

  by philosopher in

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  i have been coming here for some months y i must admit that i am still in.

  but i have serious doubts, i mean, i am 99.9% convinced, the jws are not the true religion, but i still live with my family, and they are jws, and i love them.

  my parents have a long time been jws, and it is very hard for me to tell them the truth.

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  Hi and welcome, the bottom line answer to your question is, you cant do it. Real change has to come from the inside out. The emotions they feel for the organization are to strong. I speak from personal experience. Sorry. seek2find