Posts by gerry

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Does anyone have a scan of the handwritten page from the Elders book?

by jwfacts in

i think it is page 143. i am particularly interested in copies that have notes on how to deal with pedophilia

gerry

I have scanned page 143

now how do post it here?

be gentle with me!!!!!!!

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I've just become a father

by jwfacts in

i have been married for 10 years and have two wonderful step kids, 15 and 21. being a jw i did not want a child as life seemed so pointless.

things changed for the better since leaving and i am now the proud father of a big baby boy zac - 9pounds (4.1kg), 52cm long and huge lungs.

my wife is filipino so the baby looks very asian at the moment.

gerry

congratulations to you and your family.

having trouble answering your other request with scan. not sure how to do it but working on it

gerry

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Does anyone have a scan of the handwritten page from the Elders book?

by jwfacts in

i think it is page 143. i am particularly interested in copies that have notes on how to deal with pedophilia

The Discoveries of Barbara Anderson - Eyewitness to Deceit

by Dogpatch in

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hey everyone!

yesterday, may 15, 2006, gyldendal publishing company in copenhagen, denmark, published an expose' about the religion of jehovah's witnesses.

the name of the new book is, "dommedag ma vente," or, in english, "judgment day must wait," written by poul bregninge of denmark.

Barbara

thanks for the insight.

Back in 1991 one of those articles was instrumental in helping a young brother come forward about his abuse. At the time he had a breakdown after reading one of the articles. His perpetrator was disfellowshipped for 6 mths. After quite a number of years it was found out this boys 2 older brothers had also been abused and it has only been in the last few years that they have spoken up. Also this perpetrator abused many other young boys but thats another story.

In researching "child abuse" in the watchtower library CD I notice that 1995 seems to be the last major article dealing with child abuse. Yet one of those articles in the 90's quotes an authority saying "Public Awareness is the best defense against child abuse"

My question is why have they been so silent on this matter since that time? Have you made a similar observation? The societies VNR and media releases refer to the fact we have written material to help victims etc ..... but it is over 10 yrs old.

Yet quite regularly articles are rehashed in the watchtower about gossip or other meaningless stuff as compared to the trauma one experiences with a son or daughter or sibling or friend being abused. Not to mention the trauma the innocent family of the abuser experiences.

I think their silence shows their guilt
gerry hatrick

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Worst/strangest bookstudy group

by Virgochik in

ok, i was reading the "worst bookstudy book" thread, and it got me thinking about the worst book study groups i went to.

once, my dad was study conductor and the study was held in an elderly sister's home.

there was antique furniture and doilies on the tables.

gerry

when I was a young MS our elder conductor got some of the brothers to act out the skinny cows eating the 7 fat cows. mind you he did not use the kids, he got two brothers who had teenage kids to get down on their hands and knees and act it out. By the way these brothers were the most overweight and rotund in our cong. not a pretty sight

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german branch news

by gerry in

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anyone know anything about this info i received.

short report received from german branch on april 2nd, 2006:.

we are pretty busy with all of the preparations for the special conventions in 5 cities in germany.

gerry

I have just been assured this came from the german banch.

but who from .. don't know ... my source is long time missionary. and has no time for opposers and does not want to know anything about them or what they are protesting about.

even tho it is from the branch, it still doesn't mean they are going to let the truth get in the way of a good story. as previous posts allude to.

is there any german jwd posters?

Gerry

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german branch news

by gerry in

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anyone know anything about this info i received.

short report received from german branch on april 2nd, 2006:.

we are pretty busy with all of the preparations for the special conventions in 5 cities in germany.

gerry

thanks for the feedback

I am in the process of chasing email up as to its origin of news etc.

my feelings are private thoughts... typical propaganda how JWs overcome opposition etc....

unusual tho the wording as this comes from full on Euro witness's. possible that their translation to english went astray.

"A group of opposers along with apostates who have registered an association to fight against the terrible way we treat children "

anyway will let you know what the explanation is.. that is if they will answer me...

my posting mainly to find out if such a group exists. and what their beef is....

gerry

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german branch news

by gerry in

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anyone know anything about this info i received.

short report received from german branch on april 2nd, 2006:.

we are pretty busy with all of the preparations for the special conventions in 5 cities in germany.

gerry

anyone know anything about this info I received

Short report received from German Branch on April 2 nd , 2006:

We are pretty busy with all of the preparations for the special conventions in 5 cities in Germany. I guess there will be about 25,000 coming from other countries. The American delegates at the Frankfurt convention will be coming on Tuesday (700), Wednesday (700) and Thursday (600) before the convention. But there will be others coming from other countries before and after so that will entail considerable organizing. We want to provide a snack for all visitors so they won’t have to go to restaurants.

Just an interesting little sidelight about something altogether different which shows Satan’s efforts to cause trouble. A group of opposers along with apostates who have registered an association to fight against the terrible way we treat children are planning a demonstration on memorial evening at the entrance to our property. The mayor called up and said that he had to give permission, since demonstrations are legally permitted. They had been here once before when they were trying to stop us from winning the court case we were fighting to get the legal status we deserve. It didn’t help as we won. Now they picked out memorial evening to interfere and disturb because many interested people will be coming. Well, our lawyer brother found a law which states that you cannot demonstrate in front of a religious building on a religious holiday. He presented some good arguments about the consequences if they are permitted to demonstrate. The Mayor said he only permitted it because he thought he had to. When he and his wife were out walking they came up this way and the mayor mentioned what the apostates were going to do. She said, well that should not be permitted, because imagine how it would be if on Good Friday, which is religious holiday here, they would go down and demonstrate in front of our church. They would be stopped. The mayor is going to tell them that they will have to demonstrate up by the school if they are going to at all but he wants them to cancel it. Since he has the presentation from our lawyer in his hands they cannot say he is prejudiced for us and against them. We will see what happens, but should hear this week what he has done.

gerry

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Australian TV show child sexual abuse in JWs

by gerry in

the sunday tv program that is broadcast nationwide in australia on the nine network is featuring a story this coming sunday 29th may on "turning a blind eye on paedophilia".

three years ago the sunday program exposed the child sexual abuse in the jehovah's witnesses.

graham davis the reporter for that story won a new york festivals medal in 2004 for that investigation.

gerry

G'day Ozz

interesting times alright. my mail is that unlike the first show where they had to work really hard to have people to appear on the show. this time they had heaps of victims willing to tell their story and many JW's willing to go public.

I believe that because JW's are convinced that it can't be true if an apostate appears on the show and no one will watch a video of it afterwards the producers have listened and are only using survivors of sexual abuse. ..... And some elders.

What do you think the chances are of getting an on camera comment from Bethel? Probably a written statement like last time. By the way what was that falsehood from last statement? ........ .....Or they might give them a video news release (VNR)......

I can't believe they are inside locked gates at Bethel while the local elders have to deal with something they are not trained or prepared for.

regards Gerry

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Australian TV show child sexual abuse in JWs

by gerry in

the sunday tv program that is broadcast nationwide in australia on the nine network is featuring a story this coming sunday 29th may on "turning a blind eye on paedophilia".

three years ago the sunday program exposed the child sexual abuse in the jehovah's witnesses.

graham davis the reporter for that story won a new york festivals medal in 2004 for that investigation.

gerry

8:30am Adelaide channel nine NSW 9:30 am channel nine