Posts by defd

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there may be many like defd

by justicehope in

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i am a bit nervous making a reply.

i find it a bit challenging to gather my thoughts and express them in the written forum, but her goes!

i have been coming to this site for years.

defd

Defd probably will no longer be a Jehovah's Witness within a year.

I have learned over the yaers to never say never. 1corinthians 10:12 I work on what you said to never happen.Being in here is no different from going door to door. I hear everything. All sides. So I do not think just because I am here and hearing all the complaints that it will take me out. I have said this before, that it makes me STRONGER and a better Witness being here. I understand alot that I didnt before so thank yall very much.

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Using God's name in vain

by These3Words in

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i"ve always wondered why jw's use god's first name, "jehovah" if that's what his first name really is, and is spelled correctly?

people usually don't call their father's by their first name.isn't that disrespectful?

shouldn't we call him "heavenly father?that way it applies to whatever higher power you believe in?.

defd

The halls are not Churches skyman. Are you SURE you were an Elder?

D.

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so what comes next........

by fleaman uk in

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ive had a day off work today and have been reflecting on stuff like never before.. ive had the strong jw belief system from pretty much the word go.then in 1995 that all started to end with the change in generation.i couldnt believe what i was hearing!at the time i was an ms and reg pioneer and 100% in my beliefs.overtures were made to me about being an elder.. the doubts continued until about 3 years ago,i couldnt stands no more (in best popeye voice)and dropped out the religion with a bang!i had long relinquished the pioneering and the ms.. what came next?well for a year a completely hedonistic existance..boy,did i make up for lost time with the beer and the laydeez.i did it far away tho..still worried about the elders.then i became more blase..what right did those elders have over what i chose to do?

?i celebrated xmas..did birthdays,fell out spectacularly with parents,got a great gf,split up,got back together again..all in all a bit of a busy period!.

but now its hit me.. ive lost an entire belief system,one i adhered too before i saw the light.now im completely nihilistic,nearly 35 (half way thru 3 score years and 10)and am genuinely concerned about what the future holds!.

defd

Sorry under

D.

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so what comes next........

by fleaman uk in

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ive had a day off work today and have been reflecting on stuff like never before.. ive had the strong jw belief system from pretty much the word go.then in 1995 that all started to end with the change in generation.i couldnt believe what i was hearing!at the time i was an ms and reg pioneer and 100% in my beliefs.overtures were made to me about being an elder.. the doubts continued until about 3 years ago,i couldnt stands no more (in best popeye voice)and dropped out the religion with a bang!i had long relinquished the pioneering and the ms.. what came next?well for a year a completely hedonistic existance..boy,did i make up for lost time with the beer and the laydeez.i did it far away tho..still worried about the elders.then i became more blase..what right did those elders have over what i chose to do?

?i celebrated xmas..did birthdays,fell out spectacularly with parents,got a great gf,split up,got back together again..all in all a bit of a busy period!.

but now its hit me.. ive lost an entire belief system,one i adhered too before i saw the light.now im completely nihilistic,nearly 35 (half way thru 3 score years and 10)and am genuinely concerned about what the future holds!.

defd

We, in my opinion, are here to LIVE life NOW. Not worry about the future

Thats the kind of attitude the bible says beware of. Would you like the exact scriptures?

D.

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so what comes next........

by fleaman uk in

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ive had a day off work today and have been reflecting on stuff like never before.. ive had the strong jw belief system from pretty much the word go.then in 1995 that all started to end with the change in generation.i couldnt believe what i was hearing!at the time i was an ms and reg pioneer and 100% in my beliefs.overtures were made to me about being an elder.. the doubts continued until about 3 years ago,i couldnt stands no more (in best popeye voice)and dropped out the religion with a bang!i had long relinquished the pioneering and the ms.. what came next?well for a year a completely hedonistic existance..boy,did i make up for lost time with the beer and the laydeez.i did it far away tho..still worried about the elders.then i became more blase..what right did those elders have over what i chose to do?

?i celebrated xmas..did birthdays,fell out spectacularly with parents,got a great gf,split up,got back together again..all in all a bit of a busy period!.

but now its hit me.. ive lost an entire belief system,one i adhered too before i saw the light.now im completely nihilistic,nearly 35 (half way thru 3 score years and 10)and am genuinely concerned about what the future holds!.

defd

suit and coffee break

Might I say I look pretty darn good in a suit!

D.

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Objectivism: Any study this philosophy?

by Eyebrow2 in

hey there...i never got a chance to study or read about objectivism in college, or read any of ayn rand's books while in high school or college.. i finally started too, and was curious if there are others out there that have?

i joined a study group that meets once or twice a month to go over, basically an overview of the philosophy.

i guess i really have missed bookstudy hahaha.... anyone else?

defd

under you have a pm.

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so what comes next........

by fleaman uk in

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ive had a day off work today and have been reflecting on stuff like never before.. ive had the strong jw belief system from pretty much the word go.then in 1995 that all started to end with the change in generation.i couldnt believe what i was hearing!at the time i was an ms and reg pioneer and 100% in my beliefs.overtures were made to me about being an elder.. the doubts continued until about 3 years ago,i couldnt stands no more (in best popeye voice)and dropped out the religion with a bang!i had long relinquished the pioneering and the ms.. what came next?well for a year a completely hedonistic existance..boy,did i make up for lost time with the beer and the laydeez.i did it far away tho..still worried about the elders.then i became more blase..what right did those elders have over what i chose to do?

?i celebrated xmas..did birthdays,fell out spectacularly with parents,got a great gf,split up,got back together again..all in all a bit of a busy period!.

but now its hit me.. ive lost an entire belief system,one i adhered too before i saw the light.now im completely nihilistic,nearly 35 (half way thru 3 score years and 10)and am genuinely concerned about what the future holds!.

defd

Now just need a direction.............

You had direction my brother. You refused it when you left!

D.

40

Looking for some advice

by MuadDib in

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i'm a young man raised in the jws, been meaning to get the hell out of dodge for a few years now (basically ever since starting a history degree and learning why the jw conception of history, science, and indeed of reality is so utterly nonsensical, in addition to having discovered girls and fun).

i have no qualms about leaving the organization, i don't care what the elders or anyone else think about my decision - with the exception of my family.

i love my family deeply and i know that my decision will really hurt them, especially my mother (a full-time pioneer), and this is making me hesitate to do what i know needs to be done in addition to causing me a lot of worry and stress.

defd

es we dont need to debate. I realize and understand many of the peoples complaints, I have them too. I also know some have been pushed out and I feel for. But then there are those who NEVER wanted to be there in the first place, who just want to do their OWN thing, then come on here and blame the FDS and WTBTS and the brothers and so on. They come on saying Just got laid last night in a one night stand.....Just partied hard last night and got wasted.............just smoked a joint awhile ago and Im high.....ect ect.................Then they blame the WTBTS fior being mind controlling because they teach us NOT to do those things and they do not want to comply! FACT!

D.

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Huge shock!

by Crumpet in

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i just got a major shock.

i can't believe the new levels of cruelty possible within families who are jws.. a friend on this board who i've known since i was a baby practically has managed to get me a picture of my little sister who i haven't seen for 8 years - the one who i've mentioned my dad said was working on the bethel quick build team.

the one who i've described my fears that she and my younger sister are staying single until armageddon.

defd

r u better today?

D.

40

Looking for some advice

by MuadDib in

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i'm a young man raised in the jws, been meaning to get the hell out of dodge for a few years now (basically ever since starting a history degree and learning why the jw conception of history, science, and indeed of reality is so utterly nonsensical, in addition to having discovered girls and fun).

i have no qualms about leaving the organization, i don't care what the elders or anyone else think about my decision - with the exception of my family.

i love my family deeply and i know that my decision will really hurt them, especially my mother (a full-time pioneer), and this is making me hesitate to do what i know needs to be done in addition to causing me a lot of worry and stress.

defd

es how do i know?

Three months later I smoked my first joint - all uphill from there. discovered fun and girls