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Comprehensive NWT Comparison Project (calling all technically skilled members)

by Apognophos in

is anyone aware if this project is already being done by someone?

if not, perhaps we can brainstorm how to go about this, now that the pdf for the revised nwt is out.

a couple initial impressions:.

An opportunity for AAWA leaders

by besty in

jw
friends

it be nice to see you guys post on jwn now and again - keep this community up to speed with what you are doing maybe?

all we have seen is the controversies - it would be great to know what else is going on.. as far as i know aawa leadership are not banned from jwn.. or should i not hold my breath?.

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besty

I would agree, someone posted on here a great video they had done, I would never have known about it otherwise.

turns out that may well have been posted by AAWA - just they are deep undercover whilst on JWN :-)

another chance for TTATT etc to say hi :-)

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An opportunity for AAWA leaders

by besty in

jw
friends

it be nice to see you guys post on jwn now and again - keep this community up to speed with what you are doing maybe?

all we have seen is the controversies - it would be great to know what else is going on.. as far as i know aawa leadership are not banned from jwn.. or should i not hold my breath?.

.

besty

ye I see Paul on here - not sure if he is still with AAWA

anyways - my offer is there...

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An opportunity for AAWA leaders

by besty in

jw
friends

it be nice to see you guys post on jwn now and again - keep this community up to speed with what you are doing maybe?

all we have seen is the controversies - it would be great to know what else is going on.. as far as i know aawa leadership are not banned from jwn.. or should i not hold my breath?.

.

It be nice to see you guys post on JWN now and again - keep this community up to speed with what you are doing maybe? All we have seen is the controversies - it would be great to know what else is going on.

As far as I know AAWA leadership are not banned from JWN.

Or should I not hold my breath?

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250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood

by nicolaou in

80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.

250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.

stop this #cult!

besty

Hi Barb - nice to see you on this thread :-) the voice of reason maybe

My thoughts are on page 4 and 5 of this thread - since then I am persuaded that we can't know the answer - perhaps if a high level JW defector surfaces we might get a better idea. Or if a qualified researcher takes it on.

Throwing large numbers around - no matter the pseudo-stats involved in their preparation - is not helpful. As several posters have suggested, the variables and unknowns make large extrapolations subject to such wide error boundaries as to make them meaningless. (And in Marvin's case he didn't suggest error margins or any other confidence metric)

The Beliaev study has itself been the subject of peer criticism - if I can find more details I will share them. If anybody has access to the full text of the study I would be happy to have some data scientists in my company take a look.

It appears that transfusion is negatively linked with anemia outcomes in any case...

I think the point of this thread was to debate the use of sensational claims - not neccessarily to 'prove' what the right answer is.

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New Study Watchtower Celebrates 100 year Anniversary of the Kingdom

by Skinnedsheep in

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friends

it is painful to read.

check out the 1/15/14 wt.

i am going to throw an invisible party to celebrate.

besty

"Today, those in this <second> group are themselves advancing in years. Yet, Jesus’ words at Matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of “this generation will by no means pass away” before seeing the start of the great tribulation."

Isn't that more or less the same wording used pre 1995?

Find the quote someone pls - there must be dozens of them...

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250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood

by nicolaou in

80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.

250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.

stop this #cult!

besty

wheres Nicolau - this is his bloody thread after all

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Video is up - Grandma pleads with JW Granddaughter

by BONEZZ in

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finally got it up on youtube...the title right at the moment is just "grandma" but it's going to change to "grandma pleads with jehovah's witness granddaughter.".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpuj96a8lg.

we taped it about a week ago and my mom went into the hospital 3 days ago.

besty

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201310/3-things-money-cannot-buy/

The number 1 thing money can't buy is.....<drum roll....>

FAMILY UNITY

ain't that the truth about the truth...

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Video is up - Grandma pleads with JW Granddaughter

by BONEZZ in

jw
friends

finally got it up on youtube...the title right at the moment is just "grandma" but it's going to change to "grandma pleads with jehovah's witness granddaughter.".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpuj96a8lg.

we taped it about a week ago and my mom went into the hospital 3 days ago.

besty

hi bonezz - great video and hope it has the best possible outcome for you and your family - all of them!

(don't know if you recall we met briefly at Tahoe 2009 I think - happy days)

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250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood

by nicolaou in

80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.

250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.

stop this #cult!

besty

Does it matter if 50,000 people died or 250,000 for want of blood?

What if a more accurate number is 10,000, or 1,000?

Does it then matter that certain ex-JW's are using social media to propogate a ridiculously high number like 250,000?

That's the point of this thread - and a permanent record for future readers that an alternative viewpoint exists, including yours.