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  Kinda Sad Re: Cart "Witnessing"

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  slightly redacted for privacy of those involved.. so, this is "park witnessing" in oklahoma.. the parks in this community are basically walking trails and some tatty playground equipment.

  most of the time, sparsely used, and today was a very blustery day.. notice the justifying comment- "quite a few" checking out the cart.

  i am sure they were..... .

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  besty

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkTb9GP9lVI
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  My Story

  by Freeandclear in

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  2. experiences

  just thought i'd introduce myself and share my story.

  up front, i'm not bitter.

  okay now that that's out the way..... i first heard "the truth" when i was about 14 years old from a friends mom who was studying.

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  besty

  thanks for putting your thoughts down - that can help you and others a lot.

  best of luck!
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  New Field Service Report

  by cognac in

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  has anyone seen this?

  when did that happen?.

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137681838624/new-service-report-jwinspirational.

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  besty

  It can't count how many times that videos that have been downloaded onto a device, and then played from the device, are played.
  

  it can't be beyond the wit of man to create an app that *could* do this
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  New Field Service Report

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone seen this?

  when did that happen?.

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137681838624/new-service-report-jwinspirational.

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  besty

  presumably their app could capture video showings and digital downloads accurately without the pubs having to report it?

  control much?
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  My Story "Act 2"

  by MarkofCane in

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  “it has been said, 'time heals all wounds.

  ' i do not agree.

  the wounds remain.

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  besty

  Hi Mark - thanks for sharing with us. Although the theme is depressingly familiar, your particular screenplay is well written!

  How to get your wife out is a topic all of its own...
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  New here

  by MarkofCane in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello and thanks to everyone for participating on this forum it has really been of much value, for those of you that post here know that your words are not lost you never know who is reading your expressions, lives are being changed and nonsense challenged.

  i’m not much of a writer so excuse my untrained writing style and grammar but i want to share my story to help anyone who is visiting here to see that we are real people, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have come here for answers, there is no agenda, just searching for truth.

  i hope my story will help others as so many here have helped me..

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  besty

  Welcome to the forum MOC, and to the rest of your life :-) Right now you are still a JW, sometime soon you will be an ex-JW and eventually hopefully you can graduate to ex-ex-JW. And then you won't be on this forum so much...

  But for now, in my experience (most of it on here somewhere) the big things are:

  1 - make sure to know that most people on here are supportive (sometimes misguided, mistaken and misspelt so take it all with a pinch of salt),

  2 - that you have time to plan and make the best moves for you and your family. Try and treat it as a game you will win, and try not to be too rash, difficult though that is.

  3 - do not worry about 'what' to believe next - you have plenty of time to figure that out - it's ok to give yourself permission to accept that now you don't know the answer to some of the bigger questions, and also to accept that you might never know. In short, don't rush towards an alternative belief system. It's one of the big advantages of the Internet that the only exit door from JW'ism is no longer manned by Evangelicals. Atheists/agnostics have a different door you can choose to walk through.

  4 - Give yourself permission to accept that many of your life choices so far are not your fault. You have been brainwashed in a cult and are starting a journey to recovery towards a more standard way of thinking. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. :-)

  5 - Accept that you will eventually be shunned by some, whether you are disfellowshipped or not. There is no honourable way to leave this religion. That's the way it has been set up against you by others. In time, think carefully about fading versus being disfellowshipped. There is no right answer for your circumstances, particularly not from strangers on a web forum. (You may decide that your time on this planet is not a dress rehearsal and that the inevitable years of deception to possibly maintain conditional friends and family is not worth it for you). Consider carefully how much longer and to what extent your life will be ruled by 7 grey men in grey suits from a grey office block in Brooklyn.

  6 - Post any/all of your thoughts and questions on here. I have never seen a decent question not get a bunch of answers.

  Wishing you the best of luck, you will need it.

  Paul

  PS www.jwfacts.com is the best resource for unravelling the doctrines and claims of of JW's, and was instrumental in helping me get my wife out with me.
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  After 17 years, I went to a KH....really shocked!!

  by Prometheus in

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  after severe pressure from my family, i have decided to attend to the nearest kh.

  and a little history regarding my self: i became inactive and lost completely contact of the wt changes and "new light" 17 years ago.. everything seemed so odd and strange during the meeting.

  latest technology, animated movies, watchtower web tv, a website that you can download everything, including km and wt study articles.

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  besty

  take the study - make sure the format is:

  Part A - what I used to believe was the truth

  Part B - what you now believe is the truth

  Part C - make them explain from the Bible how to from A to B
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  United States baptism stats 1969-2015

  by the comet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  whenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.

  it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.

  i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .

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  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php
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  Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

  comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

  they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

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  besty

  @clambake - you're a reasonably bright guy - start a thread with a subject you find interesting for us to comment on please.

  meanwhile leave cofty to his subject please...

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  <<<<waiting for thoughtful topic starting by clambake here >>>>>>>
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  Massive Plunge in Number of New JW Congregations from 1990 to 2014

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in a separate thread on the very latest figures for the current world wide annual report of jws, discussion turned to how "we'll know decline has really set in.

  one of the posters said: .

  the figure that interests me most is the number of congregations.

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  besty

  or those figures another way:

  1990-99	66,207 to 91,487	3.7%
  2000-09	93,154 to 107,000	1.55%
  2009-14	107,000 to 109,297	0.43%

  percentages are CAGR