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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
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  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  besty

  The western world has many people choosing different beliefs than their parents.

  Correct - non-belief is one of the fastest growing groups in the US

  A 2012 study by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life reports, "The number of Americans who do not identify with any religion continues to grow at a rapid pace. One-fifth of the U.S. public – and a third of adults under 30 – are religiously unaffiliated today, the highest percentages ever in Pew Research Center polling.

  When the facts become available - people will tend to make the rational choice. Hopefully the Middle East will make it out of the Bronze Age soon.

  Meantime its not productive to waste time on size of moon speculations about god.
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  besty

  I accept its difficult to be a Christian convert in Afghanistan, and that the predominant culture is Islamic.

  What does Bible God think about that?

  Ideally should these Afghanis ultimately be converts to Christianity, because they are pretty mindful about offering a reverse procedure - see link below.

  The point is that if we were able to do a theoretical experiment and raise children in a benign environment, would they be Muslim or Christian or neither?

  *BTW - what teaching of radical Islam outlaws Christianity compared to vanilla Islam?

  http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  besty

  For there are none so blind as those who will not see

  Maybe you are saying I only believe as I now do because I was born in a largely Christian nation. Well, I admit that fact certainly helped me find the faith I now have. But again, I don't see what you are getting at

  I think you could do a bit more thinking about why there are no Christians in Afghanistan.
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  The Signs of the Declines

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about the circuit i grew up in:.

  last decade, a congregation was dissolved.. last year, about a half a dozen or so congregations meeting in a double-hall got re-orged and it works out to one less congregation.

  they received all new territories, bodies of elders, publishers.

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  besty

  mute people targetting deaf people - sounds like a plan...
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  besty

  Don't we all have emotional connections to our beliefs?

  To a degree maybe - one of my few beliefs is that most people are fundamentally good at heart. If you could disprove this to me I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep.
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  besty

  Atheists demand rational evidence.

  Believers don't have much of that to offer, and have a deep emotional connection with their beliefs.

  Internet open discussion forums don't seem a good venue for resolving the dichotomy - on the one hand in this thread we have believers implying atheists are pig-dogs and atheists retorting with god is a shitty asshole...not much to say really...
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  besty

  @christian guy - thanks for the reply

  Maybe you are saying I only believe as I now do because I was born in a largely Christian nation. Well, I admit that fact certainly helped me find the faith I now have. But again, I don't see what you are getting at.

  thats exactly what I'm getting at - like the clothes you are wearing, your religion is an accident of where you are born. 99.99% of Afghanis are just as convinced as you, but about something different.

  I'm not sure how that works in practice - to me either you are both right, both wrong or one of you is right and one of you is wrong. Until I see compelling evidence for a fairly grandiose claim, I am in the 'both wrong' camp.
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  besty

  @christian guy - if you could find a few seconds for a brief reply to my earlier question I'd appreciate your thoughts.
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  Which people in here (or apostate) would you like to actually meet in person?

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  i would like to meet so many people!

  actually hang out with them and see if we get along after meeting in person!.

  here's my list:.

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  besty

  sorry Oubliette - I realised that afterwards - my bad. My business trip was at 24 hours notice, and not thinking 100% on it.
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  besty

  christian guy - may I ask - what religion would you have been had you been born in afghanistan? you see what i'm saying right?