i woke up early in life.
it’s not because i was smarter than my brothers and sisters.
in fact, reflecting back, i actually don’t know why i didn’t embrace the watchtower teachings?
PISTOLPETE:
I don’t know how much I totally believed in living in a ‘righteous world’. My disgust with the JW religion grew over time and I don’t know at what point this particular teaching left me.. I just know that I was DONE with it all when that 1995 Generation thing came out. This was the last straw.
OVERRATED:
I know what you mean and I have no pity either. But, I’m just grateful I followed my gut.👍🏻
awake!
"if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.
because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years... therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.
FFGHOST:
I’m glad this was bumped up because there are many JWs and ex-JWs who are suffering today in their senior years because of this teaching and who must feel bitterly about this!
I wasn’t yet in the JW religion in 1969. I was a teenager headed for the workforce. When I did make the fateful mistake some years later of entering a hall, there was never a whisper of this (or the 1975 fiasco). Thankfully, I resisted all their efforts to get me to give up my job or I wouldn’t be Retired today..Meanwhile, all the hypocritical older people in the congregation pushing poverty for some young person were collecting THEIR pensions at the time!
So, yes, this 1969 article is one of the most damaging teachings of the JW religion. No wonder they wouldn’t want to highlight it.
non-jw women usually expect their man to have some type of social status.
whether it's education, money, fame, etc.. these days, feminism also plays a role in a future, marriage.
(the man is not the head, maybe the women is the head).
ASP59:
I hate to rain on anybody’s parade but status in the JWs isn’t the same as status in the world.
That’s why I was always dumbfounded when people in the hall were seeking titles.🤣..Of course, I was not a born-in and this probably figures into why I felt this way. I was NEVER impressed because somebody was a ‘pioneer’ or whatever...It sounded so stupid to me but I kept this to myself.
I moved recently and don’t see any here but then again I hardly ever saw them around in my previous location.
I do, however, have a couple of JW old friends that I keep in touch with long distance. They know I’m Out and everybody knows the friendship can’t be like the old days. Everything has changed, not just me.
just a reminder about spammers.. please ignore them!.
they are idiots, we have a real "gay-for-j" zealot right now who hasn't got the message that they are not wanted and no one is interested in their bible-fantasy gibberish.
there's a certain irony that their own site is covered in "don't spam" rules but they think it's acceptable to do it to others.
SIMON:
Yes, I have two private messages I cannot see that must be what you are referring to. 🙄
three of my sisters - there are five of us - were baptized as witnesses.
one of them has gone from reading voraciously to only reading her textbooks and watchtower publications.
this does not seem to be unusual among witnesses.
VIENNE:
The trend towards poor grammar is pervasive nowadays and not just among JWs with poor education.
The schools in the US watered down the education in grammar schools decades ago. I even see college grads with atrocious spelling and know one teacher who should be ashamed. Spell check is not loaded with every word and sometimes you need a dictionary. I have seen mistakes on signs, TV news and in internet articles. This lowered standard is here to stay unfortunately and it’s not getting better.
no clue how i got this.. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1trgavbqlx9e9qv7begvmp0742tpawg3vfkh1eifqepe/edit?usp=drivesdk.
top ten reasons.
(why) jehovah's witnesses can't cope with the real world____________________.
VANDERHOVEN7:
All good points. But, I don’t really believe ALL Witnesses adhered to every one of them.
I think a lot of Witnesses might have disagreed with some things in the list but kept it to themselves. Reading all this though, I can understand how born-ins can really be messed up. The expectations are absolutely outrageous. I’m so grateful I wasn’t raised in the religion and came in as a young working adult.
It was SO obvious to me that too many of the younger JWs (my peers at the time) weren’t in reality about financial things and the planning that normal people take for granted. The older people in the congregation were more wise but unfortunately kept it to themselves OR worse yet tried to discourage younger JWs from looking out for themselves financially because it was more in keeping with the party line.
Too many of the younger JWs that I saw were in la la land on this issue and I remember speaking my mind about it and got put-downs and the old argument about ‘faith’ (which means do nothing). I’m very happy today that I never listened to any of these people!
the watchtower has always banged on about not pursuing worldly careers and that best career was 'theocratic service.
but now i am wondering what line they will take.
let's have look at the options;.
VIDIOT:
I understand that the religion has the mentality of not planning for the future in general. However, this flies in the face of common sense and is even contrary to that scripture in Proverbs about “the lowly ant” who stores up for itself.
My issue was they tried to make peoples lives miserable who had a job/career and planned for their future..This is also ignoring the fact that all the older people in the hall back then were collecting their pensions! They sure as hell planned for THEIR future. How come these people got a ‘pass’ but yet I as the Baby Boomer was panned??? ..Maybe hypocrisy and double standards? 🙄
Hey, maybe I feel this way because I wasn’t raised a Witness! But, I’m certainly GLAD I wasn’t.. I made sure I listened to ‘worldly’ wisdom because I’d be up that famous creek if I had not.. This can never be lightly dismissed or forgotten, not by me anyway!
the watchtower has always banged on about not pursuing worldly careers and that best career was 'theocratic service.
but now i am wondering what line they will take.
let's have look at the options;.
PISTOLPETE:
Yes, that is true. Since zoom there are no PHYSICAL congregations.
If they don’t bring back regular meetings in a brick and mortar building - a person will have no place to visit. Also, there won’t be any warm bodies to go up to with an envelope asking for money for somebody who never wanted to work. Gone will be the days a wandering JW could visit a strange hall, sit in the back and then go up to the brothers after the meeting and introduce themselves and give their sob story!
This new reality should give any irresponsible JWs pause. They simply can no longer count on a physical place or a ‘brotherhood’ who is going to give them money, handouts and a cheap apartment when they fall through the cracks because they never had the financial stability of most people who got regular jobs or careers!
Even though I couldn’t have foreseen what would happen to the religion, I knew it would be a disaster when JWs who didn’t plan for their future reached retirement age unprepared!
the watchtower has always banged on about not pursuing worldly careers and that best career was 'theocratic service.
but now i am wondering what line they will take.
let's have look at the options;.
RESERVATIONS:
I agree with your whole post and the religion will probably look worse in a year.
I also expect that they will kick out more bethelites. Any bethelites still there should be warned since this has already happened! They better have a plan and some phone numbers on speed dial. The congregations are ALREADY filled with needy people- some former bethelites plus others who never had decent jobs or $aved for their senior years.
Forgive me, but I find the concept of ‘theocratic careers’ as it relates to the JW religion laughable. A real career has benefits and plans for the future and Retirement.
