LongHairGal

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  JWs who are now paying the price of following the cult.

  by mickbobcat in

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  my in-laws are two such people.

  people who pioneered and did not work and try to save, instead they made just enough to get by and waited for the end to come.

  now my mil is in palliative care and the state is paying for her keep, my fil lives in a dilapidated home and can not keep it up.

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  I wonder what the actual number is of Witnesses in this pathetic situation? I imagine they must mostly be comprised of the Baby Boomer generation.

  The generation before them (the Greatest Generation) has very few still surviving. But, from what I observed in my congregations, these people were generally well-off or prepared. All the older people that I saw were either collecting their pensions or about to..That means they were in the workforce when younger.. Even the ‘great ladies’ who hosted gatherings for pioneers were married to ‘worldly’ men and lived an affluent life. No poverty for these people! Hell No!

  I don’t see this talked about much but it seems poverty was preached and directed mostly at the Baby Boomers.. I had this done to me when older hypocrites tried to get me to quit a decent job to pioneer! Thankfully, I refused.

  Hopefully, fewer young people will fall for this nowadays! They have the Internet and the examples of older JWs who did not prepare.

  I am GLAD I am not around there now and having JWs come up to me with an envelope to give money to people there who didn’t work for whatever reason. whether they were ‘conned’ into not working Or just plain didn’t want to!..Does anybody think I would tolerate this after how negatively I WAS viewed and treated?? No Way.
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

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  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  NOWWHAT? & JEFF T:

  I came in the late ‘70s and not a word was directly mentioned to me (as a new ‘study’) about this fiasco!

  Something might have been mentioned obliquely about ‘people who only served for a date’, but nothing more was said. I didn’t know what they were referring to and it was never brought up again. I had already been ‘in’ for a while when a young couple in a car group were referring to an older lady who no longer came. The guy said: “She’s a 75-er”. I asked what he was talking about. It was only then I got a sense of what had happened.

  I knew nothing about this or any of the JW religion’s hidden history or I might have thought twice about joining!
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  The Governing Body Announces That Some In-Person Meetings Will Resume in Select Areas

  by Disillusioned JW in

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  related to the pilot program for in-person meetings for the vaccinated (jehovahs-witness.com) topic thread there is the following news announcement direct the org: the governing body announces that some in-person meetings will resume in select areas (jw.org) .

  i certainly won't be participating in that..

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  HIDDLESWIFE:

  I definitely do think that they want in-person meetings because Zoom cannot cut it with regard to control and also because of wanting donations from people. They must imagine people are likely to put $ in the contribution box. Many don’t want to donate online.

  Also, some deadbeats who never wanted to work (who I had no use for) will get more in person.. I assume the Zoom meetings ‘hurt’ these types of JWs because it’s hard to get handouts if you’re not in person. They must’ve gotten creative to get money this past year or so.

  This is a dilemma for the religion if they want to sell off halls because they want the money. How can they ‘control’ people and get money if they don’t meet fairly regularly in person?? They need available brick and mortar halls to meet in, that’s what. It will be interesting to see how this is going to work out for them!
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  Butchered pronunciation

  by road to nowhere in

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  since it is my turn (wife) to have the assembly streamed they start with the music.. i have never in 70 years heard it called a "pree-lood".

  twice, morning and afternoon..

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  ZACHIAS & FFGHOST:

  Yes, it is sad the JWs are generally an uneducated bunch with some being painfully so! If a brother is rather uneducated and has an upcoming talk, he should make a point of researching the ten dollar words with regard to their pronunciation so he doesn’t sound like a dope.

  I remember more than one instance of some uneducated guy mispronouncing a word..and other fools using the same mispronunciation (either because they were unaware OR they were embarrassed or intimidated into doing likewise)..When I commented, I made SURE I pronounced it the correct way and I did not care what anybody thought.. I certainly was not going to deliberately pronounce something wrong just so some idiot could feel better about himself. That would just be promoting more ignorance!

  Nobody ever had the nerve to say anything to me about it.
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  Was told I was not progressing!

  by Overrated in

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  you're doing everything you can, meeting attendance, field circus, helping out where you can and you are told your not progressing!?!

  as anyone had that happen to them in the "trooth "?.

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  OVERRATED:

  So..you are doing all the wonderful things expected of a JW..but yet somebody tells you that ‘you are not making progress’?🙄

  Maybe as someone said, somebody is jealous. It was my observation that JWs are very petty and jealous. Also, whatever you do is never enough.

  I wonder: Did somebody privately go around with an envelope asking for money for somebody there..and maybe you refused politely because you couldn’t do it? IMO, Witnesses think you should throw money around like confetti, especially if you are perceived to be doing better than other people there.

  If you have covered all the bases and still can’t think of anything..just dismiss it from your mind. And, whatever you do, never go up to that person/elder and ask ‘how am I doing?’

  Don’t even concern yourself!
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  Not invited to congregation “get togethers”. They finally said it

  by solomon in

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  we don’t get many invitations to congregational social gatherings.

  we don’t attend midweek meetings and miss about 1/3 of sunday meetings.

  we go in service at least once a month.

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  INCOGNITO:

  Yes, you are right that being treated as ‘unworthy’ 🙄 made it much easier to leave.

  My ‘Fade’ was relatively easy because I was on the fringes of the congregation. I had a decent job and was looked down upon because I refused to quit it.. I was resented as an independent woman..These affluent older busybodies tried to get ME to pursue poverty working part-time housecleaning and being in the full-time ministry. Thankfully, I didn’t buy this nonsense and am Retired.

  What possible benefit would it be today if somebody foolishly caved into pressure to pioneer all those years ago..just so that they would be invited and people would ‘like’ them??..Answer? No benefit whatsoever. I’m glad I stuck to my guns back then!
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  Watchtower More Important than the Scriptures

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  mack moore ex-jw recovery writes:.

  yes, that is how they want people to esteem the magazine.

  they believe it is the unique mouthpiece of god.

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  VANDERHOVEN7:

  He’s SO right.

  I always felt the altered bible they have is really just a prop they reach for once in a while to make it look good..

  And, incidentally, those so-called ‘bible studies’ JWs have with new recruits are really literature studies. To be blunt, I considered them indoctrination sessions to show how things are ‘done’.
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  Are you less judgmental after you became ex JW?

  by Iamallcool in

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  any takers?

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  NIKOLAUS:

  Yes, you are correct and it is regardless of what side of the political spectrum they are on in addition to their attitudes towards current events and trends!

  Just human nature, I suppose.
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  Are you less judgmental after you became ex JW?

  by Iamallcool in

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  any takers?

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  PETE ZAHUT:

  You are absolutely 100% correct about ‘pursuing goals based on a false premise’ and also ‘NOT being responsible for saving/ enlightening the whole world’. Also, about ‘Gods personal happiness and the fate of the whole world was not revolving around you and your minuscule life’…You hit the nail right on the head.

  That’s what is drilled into the heads of JWs. Can you think of anything that could be more mental-illness inducing than having a mindset like this?? I can’t. This is all too much for a human being.

  When I finally saw the ‘light’, I realized I was not responsible for the fate of the world or whether other people were saved, preached to or cared about God. Who, then, was responsible for me? This is all designed to keep JWs on a treadmill with no rest mentally or physically, constantly neurotic and worried and guilt tripped, etc.

  When I began my ‘Fade’ and took a good look at people around me, I realized they were all living their lives. Whether I wasted precious years knocking myself out in vain following ‘somebody else’s agenda’, the world would still go on oblivious to whatever sacrifice I supposedly made..I know I wasn’t as zealous as other JWs (since I worked to support myself), but plenty of other JWs were!
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  How did you feel after writing a Disassociation letter?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i might do it one day.

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  LAMALLCOOL:

  Over the years there have been very many discussions on this forum about this topic. I’m sure in the future there will be more since this question comes up every now and then.

  There are two schools of thought. Either a person does a ‘Fade’ or they ‘Disassociate’. Both are correct in the sense one is not more ‘right’ than the other. It depends entirely on the circumstances of the persons involved. I can see the reasons for both. I have always admired those who have written a DA letter and especially admire those who are able to do it like the poster JEFF above. Others choose to ‘Fade’ because they have JW family or friends.

  What’s sad is when some people DA (possibly because they acted rashly) and sound angry at people who do a ‘Fade’, imagining they are getting away with something or have it ‘easy’.

  Nowadays, people who ‘Fade’ are shunned almost the same as a DFd person. It’s not like years ago.