Posts by LongHairGal

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Door to door again?

by Zeds Dead in

do you think the jdubs will start up the door whacking again one day?.

there has to be many inside the org that are dreading having to do that again and as for the general public seeing this, it’s hard to imagine.

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LongHairGal

CARLA:

Very good post! All these things are true and I’d swear it.

I would have also added: “Be prepared to be scrutinized like you are under a microscope and gossiped about and trashed from time to time by your ‘brothers’ and ‘sisters’. Also, give up college/career (especially if you are a young woman). We want servile women around doing favors for Users with cushy lives. So what if you are gullible and end up destitute in old age? You can join the ranks of the other needy in our group with their hands out..We are not accountable if you follow the rules. Those are the breaks. Maybe Armageddon will come in time to save you.”

Can you imagine them laying THESE cards on the table?? Nobody would join. Ever.

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Did something changed regarding faders recently?

by Gorb in

jw
friends

friendly and good gorby smiled and waved towards 2 local jw's yesterday, and they turned with an angry face their back to me.

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has something changed regarding faders recently?.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

Thanks, I didn’t mean to flatter myself but the fact is:..Witnesses think their opinions are important and they imagine that something as idiotic as shunning somebody in a store means something in the grand scheme of things..The reality is that the shunned person might not even recognize them.

MICK BOBCAT:

I believe I was a victim of that ‘marking and shunning’ back in the ‘80s & ‘90s directed at people who were perceived as ‘not strong in the Truth’.

I had a full-time job I refused to quit to appease older hypocrites. I refused to follow in the footsteps of single women there who bought the BS and did favors for all the Users there...They were conned into minding other people’s business instead of their own. (They should have been getting an education and career.)..This was the garbage the religion held out to young single women. Thankfully, I didn’t buy it.

The older hypocrites back then with their pensions or businesses & cushy lives are almost all passed away by now..As for the ones my age (pioneers on a high-horse invited everywhere and who looked down on me because they were expected to)..I hope they managed somehow to prepare for retirement age which they have reached by now!

I’m SO glad I’m not around them now to hear sob stories/appeals for money for those of them who never prepared. I’m not interested. They better go track down their ‘spiritual’ friends and ask THEM for help!

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Did something changed regarding faders recently?

by Gorb in

jw
friends

friendly and good gorby smiled and waved towards 2 local jw's yesterday, and they turned with an angry face their back to me.

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has something changed regarding faders recently?.

LongHairGal

ALAN V & BETH SARIM:

I am almost a 21 year ‘Fader’. For the first couple of years if JWs saw me in stores they might say hello. When they finally realized I wasn’t coming back, I got the ‘cold shoulder’. But, I acted aloof and didn’t care what anybody thought.

I remember being in an Italian deli and when I gave my order and was waiting I noticed a woman standing several feet away who was staring at me. I didn’t recognize her but gave a small half-smile because I’m basically a friendly person. I then realized she was an older lady in a congregation I once attended. (I hadn’t aged that much, but she sure as hell did.) I didn’t say hello because I realized what was going on. I then left with my order. A few other situations similar to this happened over the years.

The point is: what did it matter to me that these people (who I only had a nodding acquaintance at the hall) didn’t want to say hello in some store or shopping mall?? They accomplished nothing except to see me looking well-dressed and with a happy expression on my face.

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Are JW's Sins Forgiven? NO - (Says the Watchtower)

by Sea Breeze in

anyone who has been of this forum in the past few days has seen doubting thomas (an active jw) refuse over and over to provide even one scripture that can show how a jw can get their sins forgiven while outside of the new covenant as described in mt.

26: 27-28. yet, he claims to believe in the blood covering of jesus while at the same time personally rejecting the new covenant "for forgiveness of sins".

his contradictory claims are common among jw's.

LongHairGal

EVER APOSTATE:

Very good ad!..That’s really about the size of it..At least most of us on the forum have woken up to this.

I guess I sound like the agnostic that I am. For one thing, I have a low opinion of religion in general after my experience.

Mankind’s ‘sin’ (whether Original sin or other sins) is Big business for religions. Many unscrupulous or lazy types who want an easy life without having to work at a regular job like the rest of the population have found a niche…It’s easy.. All that’s needed is for them to convince the superstitious/gullible masses they need them to be ‘saved’.

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Did something changed regarding faders recently?

by Gorb in

jw
friends

friendly and good gorby smiled and waved towards 2 local jw's yesterday, and they turned with an angry face their back to me.

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has something changed regarding faders recently?.

LongHairGal

GORB:

I didn’t hear of anything. But, that doesn’t mean that different groups of JWs and elders haven’t talked among themselves and decided to ‘shun’ people who they think are inactive.

The JW religion has lost so many people in recent years and especially during Covid that they are angry and panicked. Too many people have seen through it and are tired of man-made rules, intrusiveness and the treadmill they are on.

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Are JW's Sins Forgiven? NO - (Says the Watchtower)

by Sea Breeze in

anyone who has been of this forum in the past few days has seen doubting thomas (an active jw) refuse over and over to provide even one scripture that can show how a jw can get their sins forgiven while outside of the new covenant as described in mt.

26: 27-28. yet, he claims to believe in the blood covering of jesus while at the same time personally rejecting the new covenant "for forgiveness of sins".

his contradictory claims are common among jw's.

LongHairGal

SEA BREEZE:

I am somebody raised Roman Catholic who later in young adulthood (mistakenly) got involved with the Witnesses. In time I found out (among other things) they do not believe anybody is ‘saved’ or is forgiven with ‘grace’ by the blood of Christ, etc.

No, the JWs want people who are forever afraid and paranoid that they are unworthy. They must forever and constantly prove outwardly by visible works (to an organization) so that they ‘might’ be ‘saved’. It’s a never-ending treadmill they are expected to be on.

This is one of many reasons I’m glad I’m Out.

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Why do Anti-Jws refuse to answer questions- and ignore our answers?

by DoubtingThomas in

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denial..

LongHairGal

DOUBTING THOMAS:

Sorry, but I wonder if you are a young person. I think everybody else on the thread is a mature adult.

Your answers are inadequate, simplistic and lacking and that is why I wonder if you are a kid. If you are an adult: no comment. Listen, I know a few JWs that cling to the religion and it wouldn’t matter to them WHAT they believe. I think you are in this category..But, so what? I have no desire to drag anybody away from the religion. I’m just grateful I have no family there.

The fact is: you have not made a defense for your ‘faith’ with your silly half-assed answers. You shouting “I don’t believe Bwa wa wa” is not an answer.

The sad part is if you walk away and dishonestly tell other misguided JWs that us ex-JWs don’t know what we are talking about. Everybody but YOU has painstakingly explained their answers in detail. You just sound childish and a trifle incoherent which sadly is how a lot of Witnesses sound!

It would be pointless from here on to reply to any of your posts.

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Why do Anti-Jws refuse to answer questions- and ignore our answers?

by DoubtingThomas in

jw
friends

denial..

LongHairGal

DOUBTING THOMAS:

You have to be kidding me. I have read through some of your posts and have to admit it is YOU who do not address what people say or explain in detail why you think they are wrong!

Other people put a great deal into their responses to you but you don’t want to hear it or won’t answer it intelligently.

Just quoting scriptures doesn’t do it. You don’t REALLY answer people or have a meaningful dialog. You just do a hit and run with a short sarcastic answer.

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From the WTBS to... CHURCHS???

by DoubtingThomas in

why?????

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LongHairGal

Hi LV101:

Thanks! Oh, by the way, the OP is unreasonable and wouldn’t know ‘truth’ if it hit them in the face.

I’m glad you gave that elder a piece of your mind about the hierarchy there…Yes, I believe the JW religion is shameful for many reasons but the fact that they have no REAL charitable use to anybody (especially in this day and age) is a more obvious reason they are worthless.

Also, you are right about any vulnerable JWs who may have received small favors (like getting rides to useless meetings, etc.) being in danger of having somebody’s ‘claw$ sunk into them’..It is VERY true that togetherness is a very dangerous thing in the JW religion! This is especially so if a person is older or even a single person.

I’m very glad I’m not in the religion anymore. But, I am especially aware (and always was) of the fact it is all so predatory. I would NEVER want these opportunistic people near me now trying to insinuate themselves into my busines$ under the guise of ‘being concerned’..Yeah! Like hell they are.

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From the WTBS to... CHURCHS???

by DoubtingThomas in

why?????

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LongHairGal

TRUTHLOVER123:

You bet the JW religion has a hierarchy. They can deny it all they want but they are full of it with all their titles and labels. When I was ‘studying’ they swore up and down they ‘had No clergy class’. After I was in a while I could see they do in fact have what I felt was a plain-clothes clergy.

I always felt they are a somewhat inferior copy-cat mirror image of the churches they are so jealous of. Too bad, though, that they don’t emulate the churches and have soup kitchens and programs for the community, etc.! They should be performing some REAL charity!