Posts by LongHairGal

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Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

by FFGhost in

so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

LongHairGal

TONUSOH:

What I cannot wrap my head around is how so many Jehovah’s Witnesses over the decades literally ‘checked their brains at the door’ and decided they weren’t going to save money or provide for their future!

I can’t even respect this. Maybe it’s my non-JW upbringing (which saved me). Even IF some JWs saved (but wisely kept their traps shut) they would at least have something! But, it seems far too many JWs bought the equivalent of a bad investment tip and decided “hey what the hell..Armageddon’s coming so who needs a retirement plan? Let’s just go door-to-door..tra La La.”

I was knocked for my job..This is why I wouldn’t give anything now to these people who wouldn’t be caught dead in a full-time job and who acted like I was Typhoid Mary back then when I was busting my a$$ earning a living.

Let their ‘spiritual’ friends who invited them to those secret gatherings help them out OR brothers with businesses offer them a modest job.

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Jws did not pay bills?

by waton in

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/nachruf-auf-dieter-teschendorf-die-sache-mit-der-privatwirtschaft/28490176.html.

vor dem mauerfall verdiente er gut mit seiner druckerei.

danach kamen die zeugen jehovas und bezahlten ihre rechnung nicht.

LongHairGal

HIDDLESWIFE:

It was also my observation when I was in the religion that some JWs just did not want to work. Period. One sister even told me she’d rather die than do what I did. 🙄 (I worked in an office.) ..I could probably write a small book on the stupid things said to me by arrogant people on their high horse when I was active in the religion. Well, I hope they can pay their bills today.

The reputation that I heard in general about other Witnesses was they were unreliable and looking for ‘Free’ this and that. To be truthful, the only ‘reliable’ Witnesses I saw there were most of the older retirees. The ‘baby boomer’ young pioneer types (who probably followed that infamous 1969 Awake article) were nothing more than deadbeats as far as I could see and I avoided them.

I really had no use for these people then (because they were so snide to me) and I have no desire to be around them now that they are reaping the consequences of forty+ years chasing a fantasy and not in the workforce.

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Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

by FFGhost in

so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

LongHairGal

FEDUPJW:

Heavy equipment repair at 85 years of age?? Are you kidding me?? The average person (if lucky to still be living at 85) is usually retired over 20 years at this point with health issues.

It was largely unheard of to hear things like this and at least I can say I never heard of this until I read about it here on an ex-JW forum. Just when I thought I heard everything I hear something more outrageous. So, this is the fate of many Witnesses who suffer in silence and try to survive at advanced ages making a living. They are laboring like people from third-world countries when they live in a first-world country and this did Not have to be! No, this did not have to happen to them.

Thankfully, I never fell for this line of B.S. when they told me I should quit My job back in the day! I ignored them and was ostracized by all the ‘spiritual types’ instead. But, I’m Retired.

ROAD TO NOWHERE:

You can say that again! That’s why I’m Glad I’m nowhere near people in the religion..I’d have to run from people coming near Me with their envelope! Sorry, ain’t happening.

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Kneel before me, for I am an ... Activist!

by Simon in

i thought it was just me that had a negative view of people who proclaim themselves to be activists.. but no, it seems i'm not alone!.

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LongHairGal

STANLIVEDEATH:

I never thought of it that way when I related my life experiences in the JW religion. I guess by that explanation everybody here is then 😊.

My posts mostly relate to the experiences of a single working woman in the religion and there aren’t that many of them - or at least I haven’t seen many on here.. Wow, what a hard life lesson I learned in that religion and I’m glad I got out!

I think people who are ‘real’ activists would be more ‘active’. I don’t have a desire for that and, of course, I like to think that someday I will put all thoughts JW behind me. But, I suppose I will always have an opinion on certain things.

..I think there’s enough activists around at this point and anybody who has questions about the religion has many resources today!

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Kneel before me, for I am an ... Activist!

by Simon in

i thought it was just me that had a negative view of people who proclaim themselves to be activists.. but no, it seems i'm not alone!.

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LongHairGal

LEE MARSH:

I always thought ‘apostate’ was a silly word since religions use it to point the finger at each other.

Well, I was an ‘apostate’ when I stepped outside of the Catholic religion and made the mistake of getting involved with the Witnesses. But, I rectified this error when I walked away from the JWs about 21 years ago. I’m done with religion though and would never again get involved with any church, movement or whatever.

While I certainly wouldn’t consider myself an ‘activist’, I am grateful for those who are. Certain things about the Witnesses need to be exposed. They can’t just continue to be seen as simply a ‘benign’ group who go knocking on doors. There is MUCH more to them than meets the eye..This fallacy has to go.

For one thing: Millions of people over the decades who never got decent jobs and hit retirement age with no preparation??? For what?? So, they can be a drain on the system and practically be panhandlers?? This is disgraceful. I don’t even need to get into the other very long list of reasons!

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Nosey elders and Pioneer wife's

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i bought a pre-owned mercedes m class .

my second car.

and the day i drove it to the hall i was told by an elderrette that is a showy display and too much car.

LongHairGal

FOOLEDNOMORE:

All this is just a reminder of unpleasant memories and that having dealings with Witnesses was an aggravation I certainly didn’t need and something that I would never again do in my life.👎

My experience in the religion was a hard lesson learned - with some close calls..Like Thank God I wasn’t stupider than I was.. I never paid heed to anything said there.

My observation: Anybody that puts themselves out for these people will learn that it is thankless and all for nothing.

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Nosey elders and Pioneer wife's

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i bought a pre-owned mercedes m class .

my second car.

and the day i drove it to the hall i was told by an elderrette that is a showy display and too much car.

LongHairGal

HOSER:

In addition to somebody’s kid spilling something on your interior, what about somebody saying that when you turned a corner their neck ‘hurt’?

When a certain sister said this years ago I saw aggravation I didn’t need and told her I could bring her right back to the hall if she wanted..It wasn’t often but it was stressful the few times I had ‘friends’ in my car having to worry about their likes and dislikes. I vowed never again.

In this day and age in the world we live in, you’d have to be absolutely nuts having strangers in your car, in my opinion. I wonder if Witness FS is a thing of the past because of gas prices, etc.?

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Should a Christian celebrate Christmas?

by Samsie in

hello, i'm new here and have woken up to the real truth concerning the org.

i'm sort of fading away at the moment.... i need help with something, i used to as a child celebrate christmas and have always had amazing memories of it (my husband hasn't as he was born into the org) but i gave it up when i learnt the "truth".

my interest was only in pleasing god and still is.

LongHairGal

SAMSIE:

Welcome to the forum.

I am somebody not raised a JW so my feelings about holidays are different from most people here. I associate my childhood and pre-JW life as a happy time. I am forever grateful that we celebrated Christmas. I love the smells of the tree and the wonderful smells of cooking and baking, the lights and colors, seeing relatives and the excitement of opening presents.

The Witnesses prevent people from celebrating holidays and claim it’s because they are ‘pagan’. Well, everything is pagan - from the days of the week to wedding rings. Nah, the REAL reason is they don’t want you associating with non-JW friends and relatives. They are afraid that if you experience unconditional love and friendship from people who aren’t judging you - you might not want the JW religion anymore!

It is all about isolating you from people not in the religion.

Of course I celebrate it now..When I left the JW religion the first thing I did was make contact with long lost relatives before it was too late. I am so happy I was able to do so.

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Nosey elders and Pioneer wife's

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i bought a pre-owned mercedes m class .

my second car.

and the day i drove it to the hall i was told by an elderrette that is a showy display and too much car.

LongHairGal

Hi FOOLEDNOMORE:

This isn’t quite the same but similar:

Back in the day I needed another car because the one I had was on its way out. A nosey older sister piped up and said something about ‘not getting a two door’ I believe because of the ‘friends’ and FS… To which I replied: “If the religion is willing to make my car payments I’ll get any kind of car they want.”

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Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

LongHairGal

HOSER:

Thanks. I actually have two JW friends who privately told me I did the right thing by looking out for myself. I have No regrets there.

As far as Witnesses with taker type personalities: you are right but I came to believe that even if these people weren’t ‘Users/Takers’ when they joined - they learned HOW to become very adept users because of the ‘culture’ there. It’s very shameful. It made me sad when some JWs I liked were ‘used’ by some of the snakes there.

The religion is really a hostile environment if you think about it. Can’t trust anybody, have to be guarded in what you say and do, etc.. I certainly don’t miss any of it.