Posts by LongHairGal

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Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

by FFGhost in

so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

LongHairGal

FEDUPJW:

That’s very nice of you to help this woman if you want to.

We all have exceptions to our own personal rules. I do myself. Maybe somebody was my friend back in the day and treated me like a human being - as opposed to others who acted like I either had a Scarlet ‘A’ or was Typhoid Mary. It’s scary that you say nobody in this woman’s congregation will help her - considering her age and condition.

Here all these gullible JWs believed they didn’t need to work like normal people - and led to believe ‘they will be taken care of’. Question: By who?..All the smoke and mirrors evaporated. Now that we all know the sad reality is a big fat zero is all the more reason I’m Glad I never listened to the religion

The problem with Witnesses though is that they blab. I’m sure it’s gotten out that you help this lady. I know it did with me years ago.

Also, how would you handle it if you are approached by other nervy JWs with an envelope looking for a handout because they know about this. I would be very rude and tell these JWs to get away from me. In fact, I’d rub it in their faces and tell them to go track down their ‘spiritual’ friends for money.

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Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

by FFGhost in

so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

LongHairGal

SMILES:

I was never impressed by convention experiences of people saying they gave up a college scholarship or a very lucrative job in order to pioneer.

What you didn’t hear about was when these people ran into difficulties a few years later and had to go back to work.

In my opinion, all these meetings and/or conventions where young JWs are only exposed to the religion’s view with no REAL world association are so bad. They don’t get to hear balanced, intelligent views of real life.

This is why it was priceless to have some exposure to non-JW family or friends who function in the real world..They were gritty but least they were honest. My young scatterbrained self was grateful for what they had to say and it prevented me from making a stupid mistake! ..If they were still living, I would go up to them and thank them with tears in my eyes for how they helped me.

Not to digress too much, but In another thread, there is the question of whether the writers of the articles are in reality. If they ARE, then they are deliberately painting a false picture of how things are - especially showing the average JW living in a big suburban home.

In Real life, somebody has to be making good money to live in a house like that, not earning minimum wage 🙄.

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Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

by FFGhost in

so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

LongHairGal

BIAHI:

Thanks. If I hadn’t ‘helped myself’ by working all those years ago, I would be so screwed it wouldn’t be funny. NOBODY would be taking up a collection for me.. Imagine 🤣?

I cringe when I think of what could have happened if I fell for all the peer pressure in the religion. I even tried doing a ‘pioneer day’. Luckily, it was too tiring. I even cleaned a house (not for me). But, I credit the wisdom of my non-JW family for keeping me on the straight and narrow and holding onto my job, etc.

It’s scary to think of all the Witnesses who fell for this non-preparation for the future - not just retirement. It really does fly in the face of plain old common sense..Not just Proverbs talking about the lowly Ant but what about money being a ‘protection’? This would imply savings of some sort.

Sorry for anybody who threw common sense out the window and who followed the crowd there and is suffering today!

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Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

by FFGhost in

so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

LongHairGal

TONUSOH:

What I cannot wrap my head around is how so many Jehovah’s Witnesses over the decades literally ‘checked their brains at the door’ and decided they weren’t going to save money or provide for their future!

I can’t even respect this. Maybe it’s my non-JW upbringing (which saved me). Even IF some JWs saved (but wisely kept their traps shut) they would at least have something! But, it seems far too many JWs bought the equivalent of a bad investment tip and decided “hey what the hell..Armageddon’s coming so who needs a retirement plan? Let’s just go door-to-door..tra La La.”

I was knocked for my job..This is why I wouldn’t give anything now to these people who wouldn’t be caught dead in a full-time job and who acted like I was Typhoid Mary back then when I was busting my a$$ earning a living.

Let their ‘spiritual’ friends who invited them to those secret gatherings help them out OR brothers with businesses offer them a modest job.

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Jws did not pay bills?

by waton in

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/nachruf-auf-dieter-teschendorf-die-sache-mit-der-privatwirtschaft/28490176.html.

vor dem mauerfall verdiente er gut mit seiner druckerei.

danach kamen die zeugen jehovas und bezahlten ihre rechnung nicht.

LongHairGal

HIDDLESWIFE:

It was also my observation when I was in the religion that some JWs just did not want to work. Period. One sister even told me she’d rather die than do what I did. 🙄 (I worked in an office.) ..I could probably write a small book on the stupid things said to me by arrogant people on their high horse when I was active in the religion. Well, I hope they can pay their bills today.

The reputation that I heard in general about other Witnesses was they were unreliable and looking for ‘Free’ this and that. To be truthful, the only ‘reliable’ Witnesses I saw there were most of the older retirees. The ‘baby boomer’ young pioneer types (who probably followed that infamous 1969 Awake article) were nothing more than deadbeats as far as I could see and I avoided them.

I really had no use for these people then (because they were so snide to me) and I have no desire to be around them now that they are reaping the consequences of forty+ years chasing a fantasy and not in the workforce.

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Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

by FFGhost in

so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

LongHairGal

FEDUPJW:

Heavy equipment repair at 85 years of age?? Are you kidding me?? The average person (if lucky to still be living at 85) is usually retired over 20 years at this point with health issues.

It was largely unheard of to hear things like this and at least I can say I never heard of this until I read about it here on an ex-JW forum. Just when I thought I heard everything I hear something more outrageous. So, this is the fate of many Witnesses who suffer in silence and try to survive at advanced ages making a living. They are laboring like people from third-world countries when they live in a first-world country and this did Not have to be! No, this did not have to happen to them.

Thankfully, I never fell for this line of B.S. when they told me I should quit My job back in the day! I ignored them and was ostracized by all the ‘spiritual types’ instead. But, I’m Retired.

ROAD TO NOWHERE:

You can say that again! That’s why I’m Glad I’m nowhere near people in the religion..I’d have to run from people coming near Me with their envelope! Sorry, ain’t happening.

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Kneel before me, for I am an ... Activist!

by Simon in

i thought it was just me that had a negative view of people who proclaim themselves to be activists.. but no, it seems i'm not alone!.

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LongHairGal

STANLIVEDEATH:

I never thought of it that way when I related my life experiences in the JW religion. I guess by that explanation everybody here is then 😊.

My posts mostly relate to the experiences of a single working woman in the religion and there aren’t that many of them - or at least I haven’t seen many on here.. Wow, what a hard life lesson I learned in that religion and I’m glad I got out!

I think people who are ‘real’ activists would be more ‘active’. I don’t have a desire for that and, of course, I like to think that someday I will put all thoughts JW behind me. But, I suppose I will always have an opinion on certain things.

..I think there’s enough activists around at this point and anybody who has questions about the religion has many resources today!

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Kneel before me, for I am an ... Activist!

by Simon in

i thought it was just me that had a negative view of people who proclaim themselves to be activists.. but no, it seems i'm not alone!.

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LongHairGal

LEE MARSH:

I always thought ‘apostate’ was a silly word since religions use it to point the finger at each other.

Well, I was an ‘apostate’ when I stepped outside of the Catholic religion and made the mistake of getting involved with the Witnesses. But, I rectified this error when I walked away from the JWs about 21 years ago. I’m done with religion though and would never again get involved with any church, movement or whatever.

While I certainly wouldn’t consider myself an ‘activist’, I am grateful for those who are. Certain things about the Witnesses need to be exposed. They can’t just continue to be seen as simply a ‘benign’ group who go knocking on doors. There is MUCH more to them than meets the eye..This fallacy has to go.

For one thing: Millions of people over the decades who never got decent jobs and hit retirement age with no preparation??? For what?? So, they can be a drain on the system and practically be panhandlers?? This is disgraceful. I don’t even need to get into the other very long list of reasons!

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Nosey elders and Pioneer wife's

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i bought a pre-owned mercedes m class .

my second car.

and the day i drove it to the hall i was told by an elderrette that is a showy display and too much car.

LongHairGal

FOOLEDNOMORE:

All this is just a reminder of unpleasant memories and that having dealings with Witnesses was an aggravation I certainly didn’t need and something that I would never again do in my life.👎

My experience in the religion was a hard lesson learned - with some close calls..Like Thank God I wasn’t stupider than I was.. I never paid heed to anything said there.

My observation: Anybody that puts themselves out for these people will learn that it is thankless and all for nothing.

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Nosey elders and Pioneer wife's

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i bought a pre-owned mercedes m class .

my second car.

and the day i drove it to the hall i was told by an elderrette that is a showy display and too much car.

LongHairGal

HOSER:

In addition to somebody’s kid spilling something on your interior, what about somebody saying that when you turned a corner their neck ‘hurt’?

When a certain sister said this years ago I saw aggravation I didn’t need and told her I could bring her right back to the hall if she wanted..It wasn’t often but it was stressful the few times I had ‘friends’ in my car having to worry about their likes and dislikes. I vowed never again.

In this day and age in the world we live in, you’d have to be absolutely nuts having strangers in your car, in my opinion. I wonder if Witness FS is a thing of the past because of gas prices, etc.?