BIAHI:
I’m retired more than several years and they haven’t come to my door yet in any place I’ve lived. To be honest, even before Covid I never saw them around like years ago.
It would be interesting if they did call.
LongHairGal
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Jehovah's Witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking
by Bangalore injehovah's witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking.. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/08/05/jehovahs-witnesses-resume-sidewalk-carts-door-knocking-next-list/10168175002/.
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by enoughisenough ini decided to do this posting because of some comments in the post about pensions.
in the mid to late 1980's there was a flood and the local kingom hall was damaged and many of the friends homes were damaged...groups came in to help repair.
my then mother-in-law literally lost everything-she had no home to repair...she had been renting a small trailer and it washed away.
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LongHairGal
FEDUPJW:
I’m glad I had a childhood eating at home. My mother was a good cook and baked well. But, my dad was fussy and complaining even though he didn’t know how good he had it. Besides, when you eat home at least you know what’s in your food.
I also was about seventeen when I first ate out. But, being as I worked for years - eating out was something I got used to even if it was no substitute for mom’s cooking.
Getting back to the original theme of the thread: any so-called ‘needy’ Witnesses had better learn how to shop at a grocery store like functioning intelligent people and prepare the food at home. Learn how to live economically..Maybe they should even approach that brother who has a business and ask if he has a part-time job available!
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Money donated for a specific reason
by enoughisenough ini decided to do this posting because of some comments in the post about pensions.
in the mid to late 1980's there was a flood and the local kingom hall was damaged and many of the friends homes were damaged...groups came in to help repair.
my then mother-in-law literally lost everything-she had no home to repair...she had been renting a small trailer and it washed away.
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LongHairGal
ADJUSTED KNOWLEDGE:
I am glad you have a career with a pension. Nobody in their right mind would want to be at the mercy of anybody’s charity.. And I’m glad your parents got out when they did and made sure they planned as well.
When you say that you saw only a ‘handful’ of JWs who were generous with their money, maybe the others were criticized for having a full-time job like I was. The way I see it, you don’t get to criticize somebody for having a job - and then ask them to give money to people there who never wanted to work! ..Sorry, but I couldn’t care less about anybody there who never really wanted to be in the workforce.
It’s too bad that so many Witnesses fell for the hype about ‘Armageddon’ and didn’t plan for their future/retirement!.. I’m glad I never fell for this.. As you said, so many worked for low wages or didn’t work much at all. They would have needed several decades of steady work to get a decent SS today.
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Money donated for a specific reason
by enoughisenough ini decided to do this posting because of some comments in the post about pensions.
in the mid to late 1980's there was a flood and the local kingom hall was damaged and many of the friends homes were damaged...groups came in to help repair.
my then mother-in-law literally lost everything-she had no home to repair...she had been renting a small trailer and it washed away.
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LongHairGal
DESIROUS OF CHANGE:
Yes, that’s right. You went to a grocery store and bought food economically and took it home to cook it.
I know I’m giving my age away, but I was never in an actual restaurant until I was in my teens! I always ate at home or over relatives houses. If somebody is really broke, they eat at home.. A few comments on this thread about people who gave money to JWs thinking they were ‘needy’ - only to hear they did something outrageous with the money - makes me hope these generous people learned their lesson!
In my experience and opinion, JWs are ingrates with a wrong sense of entitlement. Because many never really wanted to work and have no idea about money, they wrongly imagine and believe urban legends that a pile of money will be dropped on them.. I could never stand these people and especially nowadays I would run from them.
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Money donated for a specific reason
by enoughisenough ini decided to do this posting because of some comments in the post about pensions.
in the mid to late 1980's there was a flood and the local kingom hall was damaged and many of the friends homes were damaged...groups came in to help repair.
my then mother-in-law literally lost everything-she had no home to repair...she had been renting a small trailer and it washed away.
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LongHairGal
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:
Because there is no infrastructure or department there for the care of the needy, any money given will go into a black hole. It’s not going to go to who you would wish it to.
HOSER:
That is very true and all the more reason I worked full-time and looked out for myself years ago when I was in the religion.
Besides, all I had to do was look around the hall at older people collecting THEIR pensions. Yeah, pioneer my a$$! I have No regrets about holding onto my job and anybody who knocked me back then too bad. I hope they can pay their bills!
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Elders won't tell you who have falsely accused you
by enoughisenough inhaving been a victim of this practice twice, i thought i would see if others had the same experience.
on one occassion, i was before the elders being told i was drunk on a certain day at a certain time.
( this was only brought up because when i was pushing for a meeting because of elder mr x adultery , i was threatened somethings would be brought out about me if i persued the meeting.
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LongHairGal
THOMAS MORE:
That is some story about the elderly sister DF’d unfairly. What a bunch of evil-minded people in the JW religion! This is why I always had a problem believing that in times of ‘persecution’ your so-called brothers would be there for you if they stooped to this kind of garbage during ‘good’ times.
I also fault the elders too quick to believe stories. Don’t they have any discernment? They know gossip is a terrible problem there.
I am also of the opinion that when somebody is ‘hated’ in the congregation, very often plain old envy is at the heart of it. Somebody there has a problem because Sister or Brother So-and-So appears to have a favorable situation (maybe money, education, brains, etc.) Witnesses are small minded and hold grudges over things like this even if the person didn’t actually ‘do’ anything.
I don’t miss this religion one bit.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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LongHairGal
SOLOMON:
That just shows there is no department or infrastructure in the religion to address things like this.
You probably did the right thing to give your gift to a food bank. If it became known in the congregation that YOU had money to throw around, your name would be given out and you would have every Tom, Dick & Harry calling you and bothering you for all sorts of handouts. That’s what happens in JW land.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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LongHairGal
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:
I am sorry that happened to you with that sister, but this is typical in the Witness religion. You went over and above it seems. But, people will take what they can get. There are too many users looking to get something for nothing and capitalize on getting people to feel sorry for them!
The problem is that today this type of thing would be even more prevalent there with the number of ‘needy’ in the religion and JWs panicked about hitting retirement age with no preparation. I always said there are probably more needy people in the JW religion than anywhere else because of the teachings of the religion knocking people getting decent jobs and careers.. Knowing what I know, I’d have to be nuts to go anywhere near the place.
Even though I’m out 21 years, I am glad I’m not there now. I couldn’t stand all the appeals for money and guilt trips (not that it would work on me anyway).
The way they hated me years ago because I had a full time job, didn’t pioneer or do favors for all the Users - they’d hate me now because I wouldn’t give handouts. It’s ironic. In fact, it would not surprise me if they become very hostile as time goes on to those who don’t want to give charity to those there who never wanted to work!
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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LongHairGal
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:
Sorry, I wasn’t really offended by you. Just the idea in general. And far too many JWs would have this idea!
Believe me, if I were active in the JW religion now and attending I would certainly be approached at some point on the topic of $. I would end up having unpleasant words with some Witness when I told them No. It might even get heated if they laid on the usual B.S. I’m not interested in anybody’s ‘sacrifice’ or a ‘brotherhood’. It was no brotherhood back when I was criticized for working..Not only that, JWs have selective memory loss about people being criticized for working - especially when they want something.
Even though the Bible says if you don’t work you don’t eat, the Witnesses conveniently ignore scriptures they don’t like.
As we know, the religion has no infrastructure in place to help anybody and I don’t believe for one minute they care what happens to anybody - whether it’s bethelites who got sent home or people in congregations who were in the full-time ministry and never bothered their pretty heads about important things like work and retirement savings.
Yes, these needy JWs who didn’t plan are as you say ‘at the mercy of others’ and their handouts.. I am just glad that I am not anywhere near them because I would not be left alone.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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LongHairGal
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:
Look, the religion make a huge mistake when it told people for decades not to get decent jobs or careers.
Now there are too many JWs who are poor because they never prepared for retirement. The religion has no social programs whatsoever so naturally they are going to tell people to seek out relatives and social services.
When you say congregations ‘should take care of their own’ you must mean somebody going around with an envelope cornering people to give money. Well, I am somebody who was criticized for having a full-time job. I was shunned and not invited. If I had listened to the Witnesses I wouldn’t be Retired today. What makes you or anybody else think anybody has a right to pester ME for money for people there who never worked - after I got knocked for working?? And this would be constant and never ending.
Look! the ‘system’ there (if you want to call it that) - doesn’t work.
I’m glad I’m Out of the JW religion as I would never tolerate this garbage and the hypocrisy in this dysfunctional religion.