BETTY HUMPTER:
My main reason for leaving was the 1995 Generation teaching. When that happened it was truly over.
The other ‘absurdities’ and the way I was treated in general just added to the whole pile of rubbish.
i’ve always had a personal relationship with god that is not affected by any issues or controversies i have with anybody..
BETTY HUMPTER:
My main reason for leaving was the 1995 Generation teaching. When that happened it was truly over.
The other ‘absurdities’ and the way I was treated in general just added to the whole pile of rubbish.
pursue peace assembly 2022 shows a resurrected, newly shaven joseph, the son of jacob and rachel, having a nice dinner at a beautiful restaurant in the new system.
the survivors of armageddon all want to know if joseph can share stories about his life.. ''can you tell us what egypt was like?
what was pharaoh like?''.
This is all just speculation on top of speculation. Trying to make themselves look as if they have a pipeline to the divine.
I think these are produced to give the rank & file Witnesses something to think and fantasize about. After all, many are disappointed that Covid wasn’t the End.
.....or ban jw sisters from using mascara??????
"the bible never refers to a servant of god celebrating a birthday.
this is not simply an oversight, for it does record two birthday celebrations by those not serving god.
BOOGERMAN:
Yes, they used makeup in bible times as quoted in the scripture by ENOUGHIS-ENOUGH. This is not a bad scriptural reference and probably all the women then wore this to some degree. You even see this in some parts of the world now where women wear kohl.
Every now and then, some individuals make it sound like women with makeup are the downfall of the world.🙄 Depending on how adamant and zealous they are, it can sound unbalanced. I have to wonder what’s going on inside their heads and what ‘painted lady’ ruined their life. I’m surprised they aren’t picketing outside of drugstore chains and makeup and beauty supply shops.
the org.
was all too willing to emphasize to the government - especially the left that they very obedient to the calls for mask, vaccine, and lockdown mandates.
those that know about the great reset know what i'm talking about.
BETTY HUMPTER:
I don’t really come on the forum to see political posts, but I understand there should be a section where people can post political commentary.
I’ve been on the forum for years and I have to say the posts and threads with Trump Derangement Syndrome in the past were far more plentiful than the pro-Trump ones. Certain posters couldn’t post anymore which is good because they couldn’t resist slipping their TDS shit into anything and everything!
Even after the man left and with another president in office - people with TDS just couldn’t give it a rest..as we are now seeing. I’m sorry that you or anybody feels uncomfortable because some people have opposing views!
a forum is a place where people should be able to talk to each other, to question, to have meaningful interactions with others in a polite and educated way, to contribute for the growth of one another.
it seems that, here, there are some people who think that the others know nothing.
they have all the facts, all the truth and have the disrespectful attitude of ignoring concrete and respectful questions.
JOAO:
Why would you need to leave the forum just because a certain poster will not agree with you? Can’t you post on other topics (non-scriptural) or do they not interest you?
I confess that when I see these long-running threads (including massive cut & paste) 🙄 arguing about a particular scripture I don’t read them and never will. It’s hopeless. No offense to whatever zealot.. You do realize that theologians have been arguing about these things for centuries.
As for any JW who insists on believing and defending the beliefs of the religion no matter what anybody says, nothing you can do about it. Just move on.
a lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
FOOLEDNOMORE:
I agree, but unlike most people on here I was not born-in or raised in the Witness religion. I came in as a young working adult in the U.S.
The idea that I would be a deadbeat was foreign to me. Sadly, this mentality runs through the culture of the religion like threads in a fabric.
Up until now, many JWs who were born-in were not in reality about the world. (Not all, to be fair.) The worst of them have poor life skills and have an infantile view. They can’t manage money and imagine it grows on trees. Some are ignorant and don’t know how to live economically - eating out instead of cooking at home. Some may think they are owed charity by more responsible people in the hall.
Although back when I was in - my congregation(s) weren’t too bad and I was surrounded for the most part by comfortable suburban homeowners especially in the early days. No panhandlers then..It was later on I saw more deadbeat types.
Somebody like myself raised outside the religion wasn’t looking for somebody else to ‘take care of me’. That’s what getting a decent job and saving for the future was all about. I’m sorry the culture of Witnesses teaches otherwise. That’s TOO bad about them.
a number of topics have covered work experiences by members who have encountered crticism for having a full time job .in the last few congregations i had attended this was never an issue as elders had businesses they owned and employed brothers and sisters .. while i personally never worked for a jw, both my young sons did at one time or another and my wife did also .i have always worked full time in secular employment and have never been criticised for doing so .and to my knowledge nobody else ever had that experience.. in the first cong.i attended an po as they were called at the time was an insurance agent and his bro.
was an assistant po also worked with the same ins,agency.. other congs,i attended one elder was an owner of a cabinet making firm while about 3 other different elders were self employed builders who ran their own business and employed others to work for them .. at the same time a couple of ms servants had their own plastering business going on supporting these elders business.. so i`m just wondering whether this is just depending on where you are from in the world and what time period we are talking about.. the time i`m talking about was in the sixties and seventies and the area was in s.e.
qld.
FOOLEDNOMORE:
I’m glad you told your children that and they turned out well.
I honestly don’t know how any Witness can live with themselves if they pushed poverty on gullible younger people and they saw those same people struggling years later. I honestly think they have a moral obligation to help them in some way.
But, that’s just my opinion. I am certainly glad I never said such stupid things to anybody. If anything, I pulled younger JWs aside and told them they better financially plan for their future.
a number of topics have covered work experiences by members who have encountered crticism for having a full time job .in the last few congregations i had attended this was never an issue as elders had businesses they owned and employed brothers and sisters .. while i personally never worked for a jw, both my young sons did at one time or another and my wife did also .i have always worked full time in secular employment and have never been criticised for doing so .and to my knowledge nobody else ever had that experience.. in the first cong.i attended an po as they were called at the time was an insurance agent and his bro.
was an assistant po also worked with the same ins,agency.. other congs,i attended one elder was an owner of a cabinet making firm while about 3 other different elders were self employed builders who ran their own business and employed others to work for them .. at the same time a couple of ms servants had their own plastering business going on supporting these elders business.. so i`m just wondering whether this is just depending on where you are from in the world and what time period we are talking about.. the time i`m talking about was in the sixties and seventies and the area was in s.e.
qld.
3RDGEN:
Any so-called ‘rich’ elder who pushes poverty and tells any gullible younger person to ‘keep their eye simple’ deserves to rot.
I am surprised they don’t have angry older poor people people tracking them down asking for money after being misled.
This is probably my biggest beef with the religion: them selectively pushing poverty on a certain segment of the congregation - mostly younger and mainly women. I am sorry this is still happening.
I was directly targeted back then and will never forget it.. Thankfully, I never paid any heed to these #&%ing hypocrites.
a lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
BALAAMSASS2:
You were not the only one in the Witness religion who went to school and took night classes on the QT. I heard similar stories about those going in for nursing or others taking courses needed for their jobs. It was a deep dark secret. How stupid.
I remember at some point when I was taking a class for something and some ignoramus older brother said humorously: “what do you want to be a doctor?” 🙄 I was bothered by criticism by people with a secure cushy life because maybe they were close to retirement having ALREADY earned their living.. They just didn’t give a shit or it never entered their mind that some younger person had to make certain about their financial situation.
My hat is off to anybody like me who resisted stupid talk and criticism by fools and hypocrites - and who went and got that degree or certificate or stayed on that job until the end. Nobody is going to pay your bills.
If anybody is suffering now because they caved in to peer pressure and never had that decent job - unfortunately nobody in the religion feels any accountability about this!
a number of topics have covered work experiences by members who have encountered crticism for having a full time job .in the last few congregations i had attended this was never an issue as elders had businesses they owned and employed brothers and sisters .. while i personally never worked for a jw, both my young sons did at one time or another and my wife did also .i have always worked full time in secular employment and have never been criticised for doing so .and to my knowledge nobody else ever had that experience.. in the first cong.i attended an po as they were called at the time was an insurance agent and his bro.
was an assistant po also worked with the same ins,agency.. other congs,i attended one elder was an owner of a cabinet making firm while about 3 other different elders were self employed builders who ran their own business and employed others to work for them .. at the same time a couple of ms servants had their own plastering business going on supporting these elders business.. so i`m just wondering whether this is just depending on where you are from in the world and what time period we are talking about.. the time i`m talking about was in the sixties and seventies and the area was in s.e.
qld.
HIDDLESWIFE:
Yeah, it was a pretty sick mentality there in the Witness religion as far as I was concerned and that’s why now I wouldn’t so much as give a dime and would run from them.
I also saw what you mentioned about them wanting or favoring females who had no education, lived home - in other words BORN INS or at least raised in. I couldn’t care less they (males or females) didn’t like me or were afraid of me because I was ‘independent’. I saw the discrimination and lack of trust and always thought to myself:..how was this religion supposed to grow when they were downright hostile to newcomers who had a job or education? They actually push people out the door whether they know it or not. Of course, this is a blessing in disguise.
But, it’s all very much in the past and I’m glad I’m Out and retired.. I did the wise thing to look out for myself.
But, getting back to the OP: where he lives he worked and had no problem with criticism. So, there is/was a terrible double standard and hypocrisy in pushing poverty for a certain segment of people there but not others! This is definitely not Okay with me.