LongHairGal

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  Which of you readers are being shunned by their relatives / friends ?

  by stan livedeath in

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  a simple " me" if you dont want to say more--or a short explanation about who is shunning you and how long has this been going on.. i'll set the ball rolling: my daughter--her husband and children; my younger son --no contact from them for 40 years...because i left their religion.. (edit--i just noticed the typo in the header--if should be of ).

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  LongHairGal

  I am pretty much a 22 year ‘Fader’.

  I never had family in the JW religion and very few friends or even people I liked. I was soft-shunned while I was active in the religion because I had a full-time job. Maybe some elderly were friendly towards me. Over the years when I was in stores I may have encountered JWs here and there.

  The responses I got varied from people saying hello to uncomfortable smiles or pretending not to see me. I was used to this sort of thing. In fact, I accept that these people didn’t like me because I didn’t ‘fit in’ because I worked and didn’t ‘pioneer’ or do favors for Users. What I would NOT accept, however, is any of them coming near me Now asking for money! ..There’s a price to be paid for having policies like they have.
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  My prediction coming true

  by Foolednomore in

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  while back, not here on this net i don't remember.

  i predicted that watchtower would allow you to buy your way into the kingdumb.

  does anyone find this interesting?.

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  LongHairGal

  FOOLEDNOMORE:

  This sounds very similar to the Church’s past practice of people buying indulgences. I was raised Catholic, by the way.

  But, I’m not surprised.. I always felt (even during the time I was active in the JWs) that their constant criticism/ridicule of the Catholic Church was just plain old envy.. I remember it was a total turnoff to a visiting lady when this was done from the platform.. She felt that ‘knocking other religions’ was in poor taste.

  It’s entirely possible the future JW religion might resemble a little bit of what you said combined with televangelism.
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  No funeral

  by road to nowhere in

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  i have run across another jw death where the final wishes are for no service.

  3rd or 4th instance.

  another wanted a celebration of life which the elders squelched as far as i know.

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  LongHairGal

  FEDUPJW:

  I don’t blame your parents for not wanting any kind of ‘memorial’ service by the JW religion - whatever it may consist of.

  If they were ignored in the congregation and not treated well in life why be any part of the hypocrisy? The religion is all about pretense.
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  No funeral

  by road to nowhere in

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  i have run across another jw death where the final wishes are for no service.

  3rd or 4th instance.

  another wanted a celebration of life which the elders squelched as far as i know.

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  LongHairGal

  FOOLEDNOMORE:

  Sorry to hear your father’s funeral was just an infomercial about the religion.

  That seems to be the norm that they spend about five minutes talking about the deceased - and the remainder of the time is all about attracting people to the JW religion. I have to laugh about what you said about them saying if somebody used to be in the org. they should ‘hurry up’ and get back.🤣 For what? So they can be asked for money? ..I’d have to have my head examined.. Although it probably happens once in a while - probably because the person is lonely or longs for the good old days when they had some friendships going there. But, I’m sure they would be disillusioned very soon.
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  A Great Life After Leaving

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/shunned-jehovahs-witnesses-life-now-7613921.

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  LongHairGal

  It was wonderful to get my mind back (I wasn’t raised a JW). It was also great not to be around judgmentalism because I had a full-time job and didn’t ‘pioneer’.

  Initially, it was great not having to get up early on weekends to go to the meeting/service. Sleep was so precious since I worked full-time. Also, it was a relief on weeknights not to have to rush to meetings after a long day at work. It was also great to reconnect with relatives.

  In later years, in reading about all the changes in the Witness religion, I am relieved that I am many years Out.. All my predictions came true about Witnesses who preferred to be out in full-time ministry instead of at a decent job and planning for retirement.. I always said I didn’t want to be anywhere near them when reality hit.. I have No intention now of being targeted to give money to broke people who wouldn’t be caught dead in a full-time job or any JW for that matter.
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  Next time a jw says "the end is sooo close now"

  by nowwhat? in

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  say this.

  with what's going on the world does it look like they are going to proclaim peace and security anytime soon?!

  or was the organization wrong again about the end times?.

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  LongHairGal

  DESIROUS OF CHANGE:

  That’s quite a gamble this JW took. Unfortunately, this type of story is not unique in the Witness religion. The congregations have their share of people with similar stories plus those who never even had a ‘lucrative job’ like this person did in the first place because it was actively discouraged.

  Also, keeping the 1975 fiasco a deep dark secret has only contributed to clueless JWs in recent years making similar foolish mistakes that people did prior to that year.

  There are far TOO many needy people in the JW religion today because of its policies against careers and retirement planning! ..Glad I never listened.

  If I were still there I guarantee I’d be targeted by those thinking they are going to cannibalize anybody who looks remotely responsible. Like a rat they would come up to you privately with their envelope! If anybody wants to tolerate this, that’s their business. But, I certainly would Not👎.. Just as well I’m Out many years.
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  Becoming a JW

  by Mum in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i rarely post here, but i often check in.

  i used to post on h2o as well.

  i think i once posted some of this on h2o, but there are many new ones who have joined since then.. i first encountered jw's at the age of 9. it wasn't in the door-to-door work, however.

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  LongHairGal

  MUM:

  So glad to hear that you did end up getting a job with a decent Retirement plan even if it was a little later in the game - but, fortunately, not too late.👍🏻 In fact, you were lucky, I think.

  And, yes, all’s well that ends well!
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  More money and meeting with 3 elders

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, we had this meeting with 3 elders ( larry, moe and curly) my uncle who is the lawyer sat in the room and stayed quiet, and fact for 40 minutes we let them talk.

  we would just sit there.

  they went into along winded monolog about how the world is in bad shape and getting worst.

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  LongHairGal

  FOOLEDNOMORE:

  The poster MUM above seems to think the meeting discussed here with your uncle and the elders was a ‘committee meeting’.. Was it?

  I got the impression that it was a ‘friendly’ meeting that you arranged that may have been over somebody’s house. I didn’t think it was at the hall. You didn’t give any details. Please clarify a little.
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  Becoming a JW

  by Mum in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i rarely post here, but i often check in.

  i used to post on h2o as well.

  i think i once posted some of this on h2o, but there are many new ones who have joined since then.. i first encountered jw's at the age of 9. it wasn't in the door-to-door work, however.

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  LongHairGal

  MUM:

  I’m glad you escaped from the JW religion at an early age!

  Instead of 32, it could have been double that at age 64. Just think about how many Witnesses reached that advanced age with no preparation for retirement!.. They were discouraged or intimidated into not preparing. They were afraid to face shunning and not being invited to gatherings. I experienced this, but I stuck to my guns.. You got out at an early enough age to get an education, a decent job and preparation for retirement. You also had the chance to get some happiness out of life instead of the JW gloom and doom outlook.

  Good for you!
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  A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist

  by Giles Gray in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.

  i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.

  i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.

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  THOMAS MORE:

  You must be referring to the 1995 Generation teaching. That’s what did it for me and I think a lot of people left in the decade after that. I knew right then and there as the article was being discussed that my time in the Witness religion had come to an end.. I did a ‘Fade’ after that so I’ve been Out many years.

  This latest ‘overlapping’ generation teaching of recent years sounds so absurd I have a problem accepting it is actually believed by current Witnesses. Maybe they’re just keeping quiet and letting it go in one ear and out the other like other ridiculous teachings.