Posts by LongHairGal

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Watchtower (Study) August 2023 - gaslighting and deflecting again.

by was a new boy in

'they turn the story around to make it seem like you are at fault, deflecting attention and blame away from them to make you feel guilty.

this type of emotional manipulation is called gaslighting.. .

deflection is manipulation, and if it's coupled with other toxic relationship behaviors, it may be necessary to remove yourself from the situation.'.

LongHairGal

BLONDIE:

This exact same thread was posted twice already!

The OP claims somebody ‘hacked’ his PC.

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Confirmed: CO Discourages Zoom

by XBEHERE in

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i can confirm that the co during one of his service talks stated that zoom is a provision for elderly, infirmed, as well as people who might need it on occasion due to health reasons, otherwise you are expected to be in person at meetings and in the ministry.

this had to come down from the top.

maybe they do not want to put it in a gb update or broadcast since that would be too public i suppose.

LongHairGal

I’m sure this is mainly about them not getting enough donations in boxes (maybe some missing those green handshakes).. besides the near empty kingdom halls.

It would be too bad for JWs if they got rid of Zoom. I just don’t see certain people being forced back due to health, etc. If they totally got rid of Zoom then maybe these people might get a Sunday meeting in once in a while. But that’s about it.

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Watchtower (Study) August 2023 - gaslighting and deflecting again.

by was a new boy in

'they turn the story around to make it seem like you are at fault, deflecting attention and blame away from them to make you feel guilty.

this type of emotional manipulation is called gaslighting.. .

deflection is manipulation, and if it's coupled with other toxic relationship behaviors, it may be necessary to remove yourself from the situation.'.

LongHairGal

WAS A NEW BOY:

Oops! Looks like the PC is at it again and made the same mistake of generating the EXACT SAME THREAD as several days ago.

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Shunning.

by LostintheFog1999 in

with so much being said about the jws shunning policies again at the present time i thought it would be worth reposting this article.. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc9803876/.

LongHairGal

THOMAS MORE:

Back when I was in, I experienced soft shunning to some degree due to my full-time job.

I didn’t have a name for it but the feeling was like being on a job where there was a clique that didn’t like you.. But, with the Witnesses, I didn’t care for what I saw at a distance (the judgy preachiness) and I wouldn’t really have wanted them around me.

So, I’m out many years and retired…As others have said, it was no loss to me.. So, if the religion’s stupid shunning routine had a purpose, it failed with me. Thankfully.

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How oblivious are your typical jdub ? Facepalm alert

by nowwhat? in

so talking with friends and they mentioned they just visited their daughter at bethel.

so i asked did she say why anthony morris is no longer on the gb?.

he had no clue about that.

LongHairGal

PUNK OF NICE:

I have to agree that most active Witnesses are in a near total news blackout with regard to all that’s happening in their religion. This includes the AM3 mystery as well as other things like the magnitude of halls being sold.

We seem to know much more than they do!

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My old congregation is being shuttered

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

I would agree with you there but what I’m referring to are JWs who are in a time warp mentally, I think. These people weren’t uprooted because a hall was closed. They just moved away. Now, they want to recapture maybe some good feelings they had in their old environment once upon a time.

Problem is: maybe the hall and certain people aren’t there anymore.. A lot of people in general might have thought of their hall (or church) as something solid and reliable like the Rock of Gibraltar.. But, what we have seen in recent years shows us that is no longer the case.

To me, this must be a sad thing for the JWs and churchgoers in general.

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My old congregation is being shuttered

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

LongHairGal

RULES & REGULATIONS:

With regard to this phenomenon of kingdom halls being sold: ..it’s too bad this information is compartmented and many JWs don’t necessarily know about it unless it happens in their area.

I have some JW acquaintances (who tend to be in the typical JW news-blackout)..who moved from one part of the country to another.. They feel nostalgia for their former area and ‘miss the friends’. I don’t know if they are aware that the ‘old days’ can’t be recaptured because things have changed. Maybe certain people they remember aren’t around anymore for whatever reason.

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Watchtower (Study) August 2023 - gaslighting and deflecting again.

by was a new boy in

'they turn the story around to make it seem like you are at fault, deflecting attention and blame away from them to make you feel guilty.

this type of emotional manipulation is called gaslighting.. .

deflection is manipulation, and if it's coupled with other toxic relationship behaviors, it may be necessary to remove yourself from the situation.'.

LongHairGal

WAS A NEW BOY:

You already made the EXACT SAME THREAD two days ago!!

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Watchtower (Study) August 2023 gaslighting and deflecting again.

by was a new boy in

'they turn the story around to make it seem like you are at fault, deflecting attention and blame away from them to make you feel guilty.

this type of emotional manipulation is called gaslighting.. .

deflection is manipulation, and if it's coupled with other toxic relationship behaviors, it may be necessary to remove yourself from the situation.'.

LongHairGal

WAS A NEW BOY:

I believe this is obviously directed at the older people in the congregations (Baby Boomers and maybe the few older people there).. I’m Glad I left years ago.

These Witnesses have been waiting forever for ‘the New System’.. Some of them, sadly, sacrificed so much needlessly maybe not getting that decent job and struggling now financially in their senior years!

It was drilled into their heads to be in constant expectation of the ‘End’. To add insult to injury, many thought that the Covid pandemic was ‘it’. They feel let down because it was not. Now it seems the religion wants to readjust their thinking making them feel their expectations aren’t ‘right’. Well, where did they get these expectations from??

ST GEORGE OF ENGLAND:

I am Glad that you did get to do the normal things you did (university, retirement, etc.). Just imagine the many thousands of JWs who didn’t. They are sitting in congregations growing old waiting for the ‘new world’ in order to live. Doesn’t seem natural, does it.

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What`s the reason some of you think JW`s are in decline ?

by smiddy3 in

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from what i can see no such thing is happening.i became a jw in 1960 and remained for about 30 years and the numbers of active jw`s today in the world are far greater than they were back then.. and here in australia the numbers are much higher than they were back then .. so i don`t see that their in decline or have any worries about losing support .. don`t the numbers speak for themselves ?.

is it just wishful thinking on your part ?.

LongHairGal

SMIDDY3:

I agree with NICOLAU’s post. This isn’t the same religion anymore.

There are several reasons the JW religion is in decline, in my opinion.

Just because you haven’t seen enough people leave in your area doesn’t mean all is okay. I left because of the 1995 Generation teaching.. Even though many left, not everybody did.. Some JWS are in sleep mode. Others simply stayed too long and it’s too late to start over someplace else. Besides, we all know what happens if someone leaves: everybody there ostracizes them.

It is also a total turn-off (to me anyway) that the religion promoted poverty for so long discouraging college and careers. They urged people to work part time and ‘pioneer’. Now, a substantial number of Witnesses who did this for decades are well into retirement age and broke and scrambling for money.. I am Glad I never listened.

I also feel the religion has made itself obsolete with its notorious failed end-time dates. They are like the ‘boy who cried wolf’. If anybody looks at what makes up the bulk of the congregations it is older people (Baby Boomers).. What happens when these loyal die-hard people all pass away at some point? I don’t believe for one minute the religion will ever be the same.. Oh, it may exist in some fashion but I think it is inching towards joining the ranks of other defunct sects in the USA.