Posts by LongHairGal

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I think circuit overseers should have a job like the apostle Paul

by forzaitalia in

am i being mean, thinking that travelling overseers should get a part-time job like paul did, in order to not be a burden to the congregation?

i wouldn't put my hand up when we were asked to raise it if we were happy to give £50 from congregation funds to the c.o.

so that he could take his wife out for a meal.

LongHairGal

FORZAITALIA:

I agree that they most definitely should have a job to support themselves, like Paul did.. As a person who got knocked and laughed at for working, I feel very strongly about this.

I am going to shoot some holes in the mentality that people in the JW religion are going to ‘give money to those who don’t want to work so they can go knocking on doors’. 🤣 Sorry, but I never believed this. Don’t want to work? Don’t eat.

Likewise, I never gave anything to pioneers who didn’t want to work….I had a full-time job that I refused to quit to ‘pioneer’ and live on the edge. I retired when it was time.

With this latest ‘understanding’ about the average JW no longer needing to turn in reports about ‘field service’ hours, I am ever so Glad I never listened to the religion years ago.

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'They knew and let it happen!' What's your propaganda meter showing?

by was a new boy in

remember the spotlight movie?.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ae250e9e-8f1a-45bb-b757-47c0149cafb3.

as a kid mum told me usa was warned about the coming pearl harbor attack.. 9/11 and covid-19, history repeating.

LongHairGal

WAS A NEW BOY:

My God, I hope you’re wrong about this. That phone alert we all had several days ago makes me and some I know very uneasy! 😳

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About quiting hours

by Gorb in

jw
friends

what i'm thinking: can a jw be happy that the hour rapport quits?

can you show you are happy with it in the kingdom hall?

knowing it was one of the control systems of the local elders and co?.

LongHairGal

BLUES BROTHER:

Your wife is correct. The Witnesses probably did think less of her because she didn’t get those big hours in!.. Now, that requirement vanished like smoke.

I’m Out for over 22 years so I don’t know if the attitude towards non-pioneer or low-hour publishers got better. But, in the late ‘70s and ‘80s it was not nice. Back then it was literally a frenzy to pioneer. If you didn’t pioneer, what could possibly be wrong with you?.. Well, I worked full-time and you wouldn’t believe the amount of garbage and remarks I heard. I was an outcast in the hall with few ‘friends’ to talk to.

In time I ‘Faded’ then Retired.. After hearing this latest news yesterday, I’m Super-glad I stuck to my guns years ago and held onto that job until the end.👍🏻

I have nothing but contempt for this worthless religion.

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

LongHairGal

So, now that this news about No more Field Service hours reports is sinking in and the shock possibly wearing off - I wonder what the rank & file Witnesses are thinking?

I wonder about those older JWs who made sacrifices and pioneered their whole lives??? Instead, many have reached senior years unprepared financially for retirement!!!

Boy, if I had done this I would feel a sucker punch like somebody blew my insides out! I’m just so Glad now I never listened to this damn religion years ago!!!

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

LongHairGal

JOURNEYMAN:

I feel it’s probably not only because hours are at ‘disappointingly low levels’…but because they have been exaggerated or just plain lied about for years and years!

So, it would make perfect sense for the religion to tell people to just tick a box that says ‘Active’. They just dispensed with a charade.

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Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

by NotFormer in

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friends

sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

LongHairGal

NOT FORMER & DING:

I remember hearing that expression ‘your brain being washed clean’ from a JW who I was once friendly with decades ago.

The Witness religion is so full of quips, witty sayings, urban legends and fallacies that make the rounds! They’re so proud of themselves. In the latter part of my still being in (late ‘90s or 2000) I heard a saying that seems to have made the rounds and I first heard an elder say it:.. “Some of us are going to get to the new system the underground way.” ..Obviously referring to JWs passing away.

I was angry when I heard it but didn’t say anything. It seemed it was a ‘hint’ at an upcoming changing of yet another belief!!.. The only way I can think of for the widespread use of these sayings being used from coast to coast is that they must be repeated by traveling COs (maybe deliberately) in talks.. Is a witty saying like this supposed to cushion the blow for all the older JWs waiting patiently for the new system?? I doubt it.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos

by NotFormer in

i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.

if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?

would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.

LongHairGal

NOT FORMER:

Yes, I walked away (‘Faded’) but I didn’t call attention to myself. Besides, JWs don’t usually chase after anybody (especially women) unless they were considered a material ‘asset’.. In other words, you had to be somebody who did favors for the Users and/or gave people thing$.👎

EASY PROMPT:

Even though I’m Out, I don’t doubt what you say. It has probably come down to people looking for prominence in the religion. So, they will ‘overlook’ some things, such as somebody’s tattoo(s), as long as people fawn over them.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos

by NotFormer in

i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.

if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?

would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.

LongHairGal

NOT FORMER:

I got one in the very later years of being in the religion. It was small and not in a noticeable area.

DESTIN:

No, she is not wrong.

It all depends on who you are (man or woman), where you are located, what the body of elders is like, what the tattoo is and where it is on your body.

Also, if you have a big mouth about the whole thing that factors into it.. I got a tiny tattoo in the time prior to my ‘Fade’. But, I was older and didn’t go around talking about it like a moron. If anybody had said anything, I wouldn’t have changed a thing. It would have only hastened my departure from the religion.

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Cult or High Control Group?

by MillennialDawn in

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friends

i see this phrase a lot: "the indication of a cult is what happens when you leave.

" i'm not sure where that originated, but it is a faulty categorization.

"cult" is almost always used in a derogatory way.

LongHairGal

VIDIOT:

Yes, the realization that something was wrong with the JW religion came slowly and was cumulative.

What tipped the scales (for me anyway) was the 1995 Generation teaching. I remember sitting in the hall during the study and it hit me:.. they were playing everybody and I knew my time in the Witness religion was Over.. Yes, the thought came to me just like that.

There was no emotion in me. I just knew what I had to do. I planned my ‘Fade’. Now, I was not raised a Witness so maybe it was easier for me. Luckily, I had no family there. As for everybody else there who knows? JWs make all kinds of excuses inside their heads. Some end up medicated because of cognitive dissonance. They can have it.

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Do we blame the Governing Body too much?

by no-zombie in

i'd like to start this post with a part from the movie 'v for vendetta'.

here in a dystopian state, the main character named v, explains why things have gone so bad ....

those who do not want us to speak.

LongHairGal

JOEY JOJO:

You are absolutely right about the JW organization acting like a totalitarian government!

When I read the book ‘Crisis of Conscience’ by Ray Franz, I was struck by all the similarities to what I read about what happened in Cuba. In the JWs they had secret witnesses snitching on people and the accused who were interrogated were never told by who, etc. In totalitarian governments we saw the same thing happen.

MAGNUM:

I agree with you and blame the rank & file Witnesses as well. When I was a young working woman, it was these older hypocrites (collecting pensions, no less) who criticized me and made sure I was hardly invited anywhere! I’m just thankful I never listened to them.