Posts by LongHairGal

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Bombing of convention

by mann377 in

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i heard that the convention in india had a bomb go off and kill two people.

a former jdub..

LongHairGal

MANN377:

Yes, there are already at least THREE other threads on this!

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the magazine that they are studying in the congregation this month has an article at the back about how pornography in a marriage could damage the relationship.. there's one piece of advice that sounds rather scary, the wt suggests that the couple should "consider asking an elder with whom you are both comfortable to sit in and guide your discussions for a time.".

how many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?.

LongHairGal

LOSTINTHEFOG1999:

I’m speechless to actually read that it is ‘suggested’ that a couple discuss with an elder about their sexual matters.😳 Is it any wonder that I have such contempt for them?

I know Jehovah’s Witnesses, in general, are gullible people. But, anybody who listens to this has really checked their brains at the door.. And now, with very young elders being appointed, can you see the ridiculousness of this?

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Convention Blast

by Zilgee in

jw convention blast in kerala india.

one died.

LongHairGal

So very sad…It is clearly not safe in this day and age to be at a public event - anywhere.

The article I read said the perpetrator was a JW.. Whatever he was doesn’t take away from the fact that vulnerable innocent people were injured or killed.. Of course, any of us could be unsafe when we step out of our home.. But, anybody still left in the JW religion should realize they are very vulnerable as potential targets when they go to a large assembly and (maybe) even their local hall.

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How frequent is this among Jehovah's Witnesses

by vienne in

my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.

two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.

so is my grand uncle.

LongHairGal

FEDUP JW:

What an awful story! This is the end result of being lonely and/or putting trust in strangers that are not looking out for your interest!

Makes me Glad that I’m out a long time. I would NEVER want any of these people around me - I would be afraid of their predatory nature.👎 And especially now with the desperation in congregations with all the ‘needy’ JWs who never prepared for their senior years.

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How frequent is this among Jehovah's Witnesses

by vienne in

my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.

two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.

so is my grand uncle.

LongHairGal

VIENNE:

So, you have seen from the responses on here that it is common. Behavior towards elderly JWs can range from just plain neglect and ignoring them to out and out exploitation and fraud. Some ‘brotherhood’!

You probably know that the Witness religion has NO social programs whatsoever to help anybody. So, there is no ‘department’ for caring for the elderly, etc. What ends up happening is that the elders privately ‘corner’ individual people with an envelope asking for money!.. Doesn’t matter to them that said person was criticized for having a full-time job!.. I could go on…

What EXBETHELITENOWPIMA said above is a common fallacy and delusional thinking.

The JW religion is full of fallacies and urban legends. NO JW has any business believing that somebody else in the congregation is responsible for caring for their elderly parent(s).. (Looking in on somebody to say ‘hello’ is one thing: ‘caring’ for them is something else!)… Even if it is an unpleasant task, everybody has the responsibility to at least see their OWN parent(s) situated. It does not become some strangers’ (who have their own obligations) responsibility.

Yes, it’s a chaotic mess.

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Whatever happened to NewChapter?

by Etude in

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it's been a while since i've been online here so, forgive me if i seem clueless.

i found a doc with a link newchapter posted several years ago.

she was writing about violence and abortion and gave quite a few stats.

LongHairGal

STARTING OVER:

I remember that particular poster’s name from years ago.

You mention you befriended her on FB and then had issues over ‘TDS’ and the friendship with her was over. I had the same thing happen to me with a couple of people I had to unfriend. It’s a pity really.

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Looking for those with legal expertise to work for free

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.

the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

When 9/11 happened I was in the very early stages of my ‘Fade’ from the religion.

This event did not shake my resolve in the slightest! I was determined to get Out. I did, however, see some faces of scared people who came running back! I remember a particular woman who sat in the front on the side who kept swiveling her head to look at everyone as if to say ‘hey I came back because of….’

As for others who ‘go fleeing back time and again and years go clocking by until they’re old and poor’: .. I don’t doubt this foolishness has happened.

Anybody ‘in and out’ so much has to know how the world works. I cannot feel sorry for anybody who preferred to be lulled to sleep by the religion instead of providing for themselves with a decent job.

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Looking for those with legal expertise to work for free

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.

the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.

LongHairGal

LV101:

I remember a deadbeat guy there going on about how people had to ‘share’. I mentioned this to a friend and she said: “What does he have to share?” Answer: Nothing.

But, the fact was that I was criticized for working! There were people who shunned me. So, where the hell does anybody get off imagining they should be asking me for anything??? I was telling this to an old friend on one of those long calls you have when you haven’t spoken for a long time. She was a ‘soft touch’ married sister with a problem saying ‘No’, who gave too much in favors and possessions to Users and grifters in the religion.. What is it with this religion that gets people to part with their possessions? Anyway, she’s also Out. What a number they did on her head.

Our situations were different. I was single who got knocked for working. I was nowhere near as soft touch as she was.. If I were there NOW I would be pestered and have to tell people off. There are too many people in the JW religion ‘needy’ by their own fault..

Not my problem they believed BS that they didn’t need to prepare for retirement because ‘Armageddon’ was coming to save them - plus the saying that ‘Jehovah will provide’ which has turned many a JW into deadbeats who don’t even try, instead believing ‘magic’ thinking that money will somehow fall from heaven.

If I had caved in and listened to the BS, I wouldn’t have retired. Nobody there would be supporting me.

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2023-10-17 and 2023-10-20 Letters!

by Atlantis in

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2023-10-17-legal seminar.

page 1. https://imgbox.com/cm4qip9v .

page 2. https://imgbox.com/rvnapwrq .

LongHairGal

ATLANTIS & FEDUP JW:

I looked at that application and agree that almost all of the questions are far too intrusive (in addition to asking for somebody’s SS number) and definitely fall into the none-of-your-business category.😮 You’ve got to be kidding!

And just think that this will be entered into a computer database.. One thing that bothers me is that said applicant (with all their education and skills) is being ‘evaluated’ by somebody who can’t even come close! Somebody would have to be super PIMI and under a spell to furnish anybody with this information!!!

A while back I explained to one of the JWs who I keep in touch with that I’m not interested in coming back to the religion and have no intention of giving personal information or $ to anybody.. While I realize the average ‘publisher’ is not asked to fill out something as ridiculous as this, they have been asked to provide some info.

As far as I was ever concerned, the only thing they could ask for was my address and phone number. This is outrageous.

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Disfellowshipped, Seeking Reinstatement

by NotFormer in

do disfellowshipped ones who want to be reinstated still have to sit up the back of the kingdom hall, away from everyone else, not allowed to speak to anyone?.

when did you realise that it wasn't worth it and finally decided to stop playing the game?.

is your life better now?.

LongHairGal

NOT FORMER:

I have been out for years. Nobody in the congregation is supposed to speak to a disfellowshipped person, so I do not recall a disfellowshipped person going out in the ministry.

As far as whether a reinstated person holds the same ‘esteem’ held before: generally I would say it depends. I would say No at least for the first year for people to warm up to them. If it’s somebody’s family member in some elder’s extended family - it might be like nothing much happened at all.. Whereas somebody else in the hall could still be shunned to some degree even after being reinstated.

Unfortunately, this is a cult-like religion with class distinctions that shouldn’t exist in the first place - so therefore some people are viewed better than others. I’m a ‘Fader’and was never even disfellowshipped but I swear that some people from certain families were viewed better.. My ‘sin’ was that I worked and didn’t pioneer.🤷🏻‍♀️

When you ask if a formerly DF’d person could rise to ‘greater heights’, I’m assuming you mean can they be an elder. I can’t say for certain but if many many years passed and the person is an older person - I suppose it might not matter if they were DF’d and reinstated as a teenager.