dbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.
i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.
here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.
BLONDIE:
I remember that scary description of Armageddon…There was a sister there who told me she would rather live out her life and die before Armageddon because she did not want to go through it!
Well, I don’t blame her and I feel the same way.. Anybody who wants to experience the end of the world scenario as described in the Bible is just plain nuts.. Some JWs might say they want the ‘paradise’ so badly they would - but I don’t think they know what they’re asking for.
this is from a site called "atheist republic" :.
" the phenomenon of "nones" — individuals who claim no religious affiliation — is rapidly reshaping america's religious landscape.
recent surveys by the associated press-norc center for public affairs research indicate that 30% of u.s. adults identify as nonreligious.
PHIZZY:
It might be that in the Western world (especially the USA) that Christian religions are decreasing. Not so sure about dying out.
But, hopefully, with the public becoming aware of the harmfulness of high-control/cult-like religions, we will see a decrease in them. They deserve to join the other defunct religions in the USA.
Unfortunately, though, in other parts of the world, certain oppressive non-Christian religions are increasing - especially in countries that are so-called theocracies. People in these places have no choice.
i heard that the convention in india had a bomb go off and kill two people.
a former jdub..
MANN377:
Yes, there are already at least THREE other threads on this!
the magazine that they are studying in the congregation this month has an article at the back about how pornography in a marriage could damage the relationship.. there's one piece of advice that sounds rather scary, the wt suggests that the couple should "consider asking an elder with whom you are both comfortable to sit in and guide your discussions for a time.".
how many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?.
LOSTINTHEFOG1999:
I’m speechless to actually read that it is ‘suggested’ that a couple discuss with an elder about their sexual matters.😳 Is it any wonder that I have such contempt for them?
I know Jehovah’s Witnesses, in general, are gullible people. But, anybody who listens to this has really checked their brains at the door.. And now, with very young elders being appointed, can you see the ridiculousness of this?
So very sad…It is clearly not safe in this day and age to be at a public event - anywhere.
The article I read said the perpetrator was a JW.. Whatever he was doesn’t take away from the fact that vulnerable innocent people were injured or killed.. Of course, any of us could be unsafe when we step out of our home.. But, anybody still left in the JW religion should realize they are very vulnerable as potential targets when they go to a large assembly and (maybe) even their local hall.
my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.
two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.
so is my grand uncle.
FEDUP JW:
What an awful story! This is the end result of being lonely and/or putting trust in strangers that are not looking out for your interest!
Makes me Glad that I’m out a long time. I would NEVER want any of these people around me - I would be afraid of their predatory nature.👎 And especially now with the desperation in congregations with all the ‘needy’ JWs who never prepared for their senior years.
my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.
two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.
so is my grand uncle.
VIENNE:
So, you have seen from the responses on here that it is common. Behavior towards elderly JWs can range from just plain neglect and ignoring them to out and out exploitation and fraud. Some ‘brotherhood’!
You probably know that the Witness religion has NO social programs whatsoever to help anybody. So, there is no ‘department’ for caring for the elderly, etc. What ends up happening is that the elders privately ‘corner’ individual people with an envelope asking for money!.. Doesn’t matter to them that said person was criticized for having a full-time job!.. I could go on…
What EXBETHELITENOWPIMA said above is a common fallacy and delusional thinking.
The JW religion is full of fallacies and urban legends. NO JW has any business believing that somebody else in the congregation is responsible for caring for their elderly parent(s).. (Looking in on somebody to say ‘hello’ is one thing: ‘caring’ for them is something else!)… Even if it is an unpleasant task, everybody has the responsibility to at least see their OWN parent(s) situated. It does not become some strangers’ (who have their own obligations) responsibility.
Yes, it’s a chaotic mess.
it's been a while since i've been online here so, forgive me if i seem clueless.
i found a doc with a link newchapter posted several years ago.
she was writing about violence and abortion and gave quite a few stats.
STARTING OVER:
I remember that particular poster’s name from years ago.
You mention you befriended her on FB and then had issues over ‘TDS’ and the friendship with her was over. I had the same thing happen to me with a couple of people I had to unfriend. It’s a pity really.
an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.
the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.
BETH SARIM:
When 9/11 happened I was in the very early stages of my ‘Fade’ from the religion.
This event did not shake my resolve in the slightest! I was determined to get Out. I did, however, see some faces of scared people who came running back! I remember a particular woman who sat in the front on the side who kept swiveling her head to look at everyone as if to say ‘hey I came back because of….’
As for others who ‘go fleeing back time and again and years go clocking by until they’re old and poor’: .. I don’t doubt this foolishness has happened.
Anybody ‘in and out’ so much has to know how the world works. I cannot feel sorry for anybody who preferred to be lulled to sleep by the religion instead of providing for themselves with a decent job.
an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.
the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.
LV101:
I remember a deadbeat guy there going on about how people had to ‘share’. I mentioned this to a friend and she said: “What does he have to share?” Answer: Nothing.
But, the fact was that I was criticized for working! There were people who shunned me. So, where the hell does anybody get off imagining they should be asking me for anything??? I was telling this to an old friend on one of those long calls you have when you haven’t spoken for a long time. She was a ‘soft touch’ married sister with a problem saying ‘No’, who gave too much in favors and possessions to Users and grifters in the religion.. What is it with this religion that gets people to part with their possessions? Anyway, she’s also Out. What a number they did on her head.
Our situations were different. I was single who got knocked for working. I was nowhere near as soft touch as she was.. If I were there NOW I would be pestered and have to tell people off. There are too many people in the JW religion ‘needy’ by their own fault..
Not my problem they believed BS that they didn’t need to prepare for retirement because ‘Armageddon’ was coming to save them - plus the saying that ‘Jehovah will provide’ which has turned many a JW into deadbeats who don’t even try, instead believing ‘magic’ thinking that money will somehow fall from heaven.
If I had caved in and listened to the BS, I wouldn’t have retired. Nobody there would be supporting me.
