RILEY:
Please! This isn’t just about crime committed by these people.
And we are talking about a staggering amount of illegal aliens that entered the country. Not just a handful. That could be ignored…. So, keep being in denial.
breaking: fbi director kash patel has announced the arrest of milwaukee judge hannah dugan for obstructing ice during the arrest of an illegal alien.
patel: "we believe judge dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, eduardo flores ruiz, allowing the subject — an illegal alien — to evade arrest.".
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RILEY:
Please! This isn’t just about crime committed by these people.
And we are talking about a staggering amount of illegal aliens that entered the country. Not just a handful. That could be ignored…. So, keep being in denial.
on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.
he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.
is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?
KALEB OUT WEST & BIAHI:
You are both certainly correct that the Catholics and just about everybody else — do Not think about Jehovah’s Witnesses.
When I was new in the JWs, I was positively baffled when they would say that ‘everybody thinks about OR notices them’. Only when I indicated an interest to my relatives and friends was I told they were ‘nuts’. Other than that, nobody actively notices JWs - or cares.
Their belief is untrue as I never heard a whisper about them anywhere in the world. It’s all wishful thinking on their part.
on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.
he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.
is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?
HALCON & AQWSED12345:
Being raised Roman Catholic, I can say the Witness religion was viewed suspiciously as crackpot.
I got involved anyway because the JWs misrepresented what they were. If I knew the real story I would never have set foot there. Luckily for me, I rejected the Witnesses attempts at ‘control’. I would not quit my job to do pioneering and housecleaning.
I ended up leaving after the 1995 Generation teaching…I wasted time but was just relieved it was over... I am Glad I trusted my instincts and didn’t listen to everything they said!
hi friends,.
after some years i returned here out of curiosity, excuse my writing since my native language is spanish.
we (as a family) left the jw many over the un scandal... my children never got baptized.
CABALLO SENTADO:
I am glad you as a family got out of the Witness religion ages ago and your children are doing well. You all escaped untold pain and aggravation! What a happy story.
Yes, there is a better life outside the JW religion as most of us on the forum can attest to!😊
‘jehovah’s witnesses told me i would die at 15 – so i didn’t save for a pension’.
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BLONDIE:
Edit: I just read if a person is over 65 they don’t need a disability to qualify for SSI. They just need to satisfy the financial questions to show their income is below whatever. However, if anybody is under 65 they must prove a disability.
It’s still awful but I guess better than zero and maybe they can live in a relative’s room?
But, seriously, if any intelligent JWs had a crystal ball and saw this predicament decades ago, they would have made other plans!
‘jehovah’s witnesses told me i would die at 15 – so i didn’t save for a pension’.
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HI BLONDIE:
I wrote that.🤣
But, yeah JWs figure there will be pennies from heaven.
I heard about those nervy articles about ‘filling out paperwork to qualify for money from secular sources’: Maybe some state Welfare programs??? I read that somebody in the U.S. CANNOT get SS unless they paid into it. Maybe if a spouse worked then the other or a dependent can get something.. The other option is IF somebody can prove disability they can apply for SSI.. Otherwise, it doesn’t sound hopeful.
Bottom. line:: If somebody never worked in the U.S. it really sounds like they are screwed, frankly..They wouldn’t qualify for much, if anything…and how long would they wait to even be approved?? All this is, ultimately, the final tragedy of listening to the Witness religion when they were younger!👎
However, I do understand what you mean about global and political instability and that is a very scary thing for us all!
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UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:
Yes, you’re right. I know some ex-JWs might say their experience helped them with public speaking - but that’s just a small side benefit. The real truth is that JW-ism has No currency in the real world.
BLONDIE:
If you, with your wise preparation for retirement, are worried because of an insecure future, what about Witnesses who did little or nothing?? …I am Glad I never listened to suicidally stupid talk telling me to quit my secular job w/benefits & retirement and pursue poverty by pioneering/cleaning.. I was told to ‘have faith’.. This would be like jumping from a plane without a parachute. I was supposed to live with little to no money and not concern myself about my future.
But, the sensible Catholic girl in me rejected their nonsense and kept my job.. I’m proud of being shunned.. And many of my JW critics are deceased. Some lived a cushy life.. You didn’t see THEM doing without!
i was doing some research on the taxable status of money being gifted to co’s and travelling missionaries and was surprised with what i found.
i had assumed that it was not taxable income in australia.. it is taxable income in australia and it‘s likely that the same rules apply in some other countries.. a registered religious institution only receives tax free status on donations because they have been endorsed by the australian tax office.
travelling overseas and missionaries are not in this category.. there’s a tax ruling that goes into great detail.
BLONDIE:
I always wondered if people who worked for Witnesses were happier or better off.
Well now I know they were not better off - in fact quite the contrary. I am glad I always worked for secular employers.
And, again, those Witnesses who worked for themselves who did not declare all they made, hurt themselves in the long run.. Social Security payouts are based on what was reported! I guess this was a rude awakening for many JWs. Too many Witnesses had/have piss poor practical knowledge about finances and how the world works. Now, many are getting a crash course late in the game!
the current memorial invitation campaign got me thinking about the few times over the years that someone i invited to a meeting actually came: .
1) once when i was "new", i invited a friend to a sunday meeting.
neither of us drove, so the brother conducting my study picked us up.
LV101:
🤣That was me who said that about Witness bias against converts!
Yes, the prim “Stepford-type wives”, etc. that I encountered decades ago (who seemed in a 1950s timewarp) - all thought that about new converts, particularly if you were younger like I was.. Plus add the fact I wouldn’t heed older Witnesses’ suggestions to quit my job to pioneer and clean toilets - horrors! I would only be accepted if they could control my life. So I was on the shit list early on.
But, I can laugh about all this now all these years later.
the current memorial invitation campaign got me thinking about the few times over the years that someone i invited to a meeting actually came: .
1) once when i was "new", i invited a friend to a sunday meeting.
neither of us drove, so the brother conducting my study picked us up.
UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:
Yes, there is a very obvious class system in the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
You are correct that if you are not part of the ‘upper class’ or ‘In crowd’, you are treated badly. If you’re not pioneering but have a job, forget about it. They will hate you.. [I want to stress here because I haven’t seen anybody comment on this in all my years on the forum:: but I observed there was a definite BIAS against people who were converts and not born-in Witnesses.]
Witnesses purport to want converts but I saw this attitude there when I was new... Don’t know if it still is because I got Out ages ago. Maybe they’re less ‘picky’ now that they are losing people…They were so arrogant with pushing people out - now they can’t get anybody to stay!🤣 Serves them right.