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  You Could Be Stuck in a University When Your Parent Dies. Convention Day 2 Video

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body is going all out at this years convention.

  they are still discouraging university education.

  i guess the end must be real close .

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  HOSER:

  That's a good question and I’d like to think so.

  Some years back I read an awful story in reverse. As the story goes: a JW missionary in a very rural backwards area of the world (don’t remember where) supposedly had his missionary friend or partner die… Don’t remember the details if he couldn’t get any money or assistance, etc. But he ended up having to personally cremate his friend out in the field or wherever. 😮 When I read this missionary horror story it impressed upon me the insanity of it all.

  Because the religion is so secretive and JWs are reluctant to even talk about their bad experiences in Bethel - stories like this one would hardly be known about. So, who knows about somebody having to come home for the death of a parent?
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  Beware of PIMO'S in the Congregation. Convention day 1 video

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body is now focusing on those that are pimos in the congregation, trying to wake up pimis.

  they have a video series featuring a mom, dad, and son.

  the mom is fighting cancer.

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  ANONY MOUS:

  It does sound like it was made by PIMOs!!.. They are voicing the exact complaints people there are having and that we, as ex-JW spectators, know are obvious.

  Yes, JWs who heard promises when they were young have gotten old and sick.. And the mom deciding ‘not to draw attention to herself’ means what?? (I can understand why some people may not want to talk about an ailment so as to not be reminded of it.. But, this gives the impression that it’s just reminding all the other JWs that yet another person is facing their end and the ‘New System’ ain’t here!)

  And I like the “we’re Witnesses too but we have a comfortable life”. This is obviously knocking JWs who are better off financially or who maybe worked full-time like I did (shame shame).

  Sounds like a crying fest. I am glad to not be around this somber environment with disappointed, sick or broke JWs.. Besides, they would hate my guts for leaving years ago and not listening to the B.S.
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  Beware of PIMO'S in the Congregation. Convention day 1 video

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body is now focusing on those that are pimos in the congregation, trying to wake up pimis.

  they have a video series featuring a mom, dad, and son.

  the mom is fighting cancer.

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  LIAM:

  So, it’s the enemy from within.

  Regarding the remaining people inside the Witness religion:: we can never know how many genuinely believe it OR are faking it for the sake of family there.

  When I planned my ‘Fade’ after that 1995 Generation teaching, I did so without the slightest concern about what anybody thought about me.. I had no family there so I just bounced... So what if I was further shunned because I worked and didn’t pioneer?? Let them gossip.. This was no loss to somebody in my situation.

  However, other Witnesses sitting there growing old with family in Do Not have this luxury - and they are sitting there faking it and getting sick and tired.

  What an understatement to say I’m Thankful I got out of the religion ages ago.
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  What is the Craziest Thing You Are Aware Of Someone Being Disfellowshipped For?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.

  she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.

  no one even remembered her.

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  HOSER:

  It amazes me how heartbreaking and ridiculous some of these disfellowshipping stories are.
  

  Somebody half-dead who doesn’t even know what’s going on gets disfellowshipped.🙄 Wow, I guess that showed them!.. I’m sure the congregation was then ‘clean’ from their harmful influence, right?🙄

  I'm sure all these disfellowshippings and pushing people out the door over faulty teachings was in the days when the congregations were filled with people. Egotistical elders imagined people would be begging to come back crawling on their bellies. Those days are gone.

  Now the religion can Dream On because they cannot get people to stay and are trying to entice people long gone to come back into their toxic world.. I am a long-time ‘Fader’ and you couldn’t pay me to go back to the JWs.
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  Did the WT Policy on Lying Bother You When You Were a JW?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's the wt standard for lying: "while malicious lying is definitely condemned in the bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it" - insight pp.

  244-245. vs. websters dictionary:.

  lie, noun.

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  SEA BREEZE:

  When I was ‘in’ I never really thought too much about it.

  I remembered the phrase “you do not owe the truth to somebody who doesn’t deserve it”. This was presented in the scenario of persecution when authorities ‘wanted to know where the brothers were hiding’. So, at the time I didn’t think it was so bad.

  Now that I’m Out? Wow. It’s shocking.. Doesn’t matter now, but I think I was a victim of bait & switch all those years ago.. I guess I “didn’t deserve the truth”.. Right? Also, what about all the urban legends/fallacies (false stories) famous in the congregations.. Why do you hear the same cliche remarks from coast to coast - whether you are in California or the East Coast?

  I figured it must’ve been company men’s’ jobs to sprinkle these little seeds on their visits everywhere.. Can’t imagine where else these ideas came from.. Why then do you have JWs everywhere believing the same fallacies or parroting the same phrases??

  The fallacy that bothers me the most (which still exists) are Witnesses who imagine ‘somebody’ is going to ‘give them something’ if they make personal sacrifices to pioneer. 🙄 This belief refuses to die. Hmm. Wonder where they got this idea from??😉
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  What is the Craziest Thing You Are Aware Of Someone Being Disfellowshipped For?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.

  she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.

  no one even remembered her.

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  UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:

  The Witnesses expelled you in their arrogance and high horse. You told them off when they tried to control your life which they have no business doing..but they do it anyway.. They tried with me.. This was a blessing in disguise for you as you could have ended up a broke pioneer. Be glad this didn’t happen.

  Now, they are desperate because they have lost so many people - especially men.. They made a mistake but would never admit it… Now they want to benefit from your secular know-how and better financial status. What hypocrites!

  This is infuriating and similar to them thinking they are going to target somebody for money who they criticized/shunned for working in the first place - which is the main reason why I have No use for this religion.👎
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  What is the Craziest Thing You Are Aware Of Someone Being Disfellowshipped For?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.

  she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.

  no one even remembered her.

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  UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:

  I think you got Disfellowshipped for calling them a ‘bunch of dumb azzes’.. if that’s what you actually said.

  But, I am not sure a person would be disfellowshipped for going to college. If you gave a ‘milder’ answer it probably wouldn’t have happened. But I’m sure it worked out for the best.

  Even though I am a ‘walk away’, I am glad I did not show a so-called ‘sheeplike’ personality when I ignored those fools who wanted me to quit a decent job to be in the full time ministry. Today I am ever Grateful!
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  What is the Craziest Thing You Are Aware Of Someone Being Disfellowshipped For?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.

  she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.

  no one even remembered her.

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  DAGNEY:

  What that smug elder told you is unfortunately true.. I came to see that people with a brain or a sense of justice could not stay in the toxic Witness religion.

  Even though the 1995 Generation teaching is what made me finally get out of there, I had a list of grievances. This issue of corrupt, stupid or egotistical elders was right at the top and the criticism of responsible working people next on my list!
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  What is the Craziest Thing You Are Aware Of Someone Being Disfellowshipped For?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.

  she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.

  no one even remembered her.

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  SEA BREEZE:

  I can see that happening. Now they are so desperate for people they would probably embrace her!

  Back years ago when I was in the Witnesses and there was a considerable population, it seems the elders were arrogant and would ‘push’ certain people out. People could be disfellowshipped because of elder’s egos over some issue. I perceived the elders were bullies.

  Because I knew people in the religion (rank & file) were unreliable with the culture of unaccountability that exists in the JWs, I never had any important dealings with anybody.. If there was a dispute some bullying elder would have said ‘you should let it go’. I wouldn’t have any of this.

  I had no intention of being victimized by some idiot there - which is what the religion expects. They want little victims there who tolerate anything and won’t speak up… I would have taken somebody to court. That would not have gone over well.
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  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

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  LongHairGal

  GL TIREBITER:

  That is interesting about the Catholics not recognizing Witness baptisms as valid because they don’t baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

  I never thought about this. How funny that now that I am long Out of the Witnesses, I only recognize the Roman Catholic baptism I received in infancy as valid..(To be honest I never stopped viewing it as valid..I wondered to myself why it was necessary to be baptized again by the JWs if somebody was already baptized a Christian elsewhere).

  My Catholic baptism was more official and at least provided me with a document that can be used for an ID if needed.