RUBADUB:
My father would have voted for Colin Powell if he had run!
SILENTBUDDAH:
If Obama wasn’t the first black president, who was?..Was somebody ‘passing’?
archie bunker from all in the family was considered by many as a racist.
there are still many people who think and act like him.
of course, in today’s world, there are many extremes.
RUBADUB:
My father would have voted for Colin Powell if he had run!
SILENTBUDDAH:
If Obama wasn’t the first black president, who was?..Was somebody ‘passing’?
hi friends ,.
is it just me or do others on this forum like to know where posters are from ?
what country state or region you are from ?
SMIDDY3:
The northeast USA here. Tri-state area.
with the upcoming elections, the campaigns and political rhetoric are ramping up.
(ramping up is an understatement lol) .
i remember a few years ago, gb member brother herd mentioned during one of his talks that several witnesses were either reproved or disfellowshipped for voting for a certain presidential candidate who won...twice.
DAVROS:
I have no doubt there may have always been some JWs somewhere who secretly voted..When Obama ran it was said many black JWs made sure they voted for him!
SMIDDY3:
Why bother asking for a vote if they’re only going to ‘fix’ things the way they want? I also believe that they wanted that Sunday afternoon meeting because they thought people were going to go out in service in the morning.
I needed my sleep from getting up early to work every day - so I didn’t make too many Sunday mornings for service ☺️.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vwxeenkkoary-efyhnt75iqmagx0yywf.
f. w. franz "times in which we are particularly interested" may 11, 1975. ;introduced by kenneth a. little, a much younger man than now for sure.. the clip is 8 minutes.. unfortunately, some idiot recorded over part of this day many years ago.
i am hoping to find another copy in the box..
PHIZZY:
Yes, it’s true the JW religion is trying to maintain Control by denying education. But, it won’t work anymore because, as you said, everyone needs marketable skills just to get a reasonably paying job. These skills are gotten by higher education of some sort.
The fantasy of people leisurely knocking on doors and not really being in the workforce should be long over.. This is the type of thinking from FF’s time..There were people who tried to do this by expecting handouts.. Maybe some elderly person gave them a few bucks and invited them to dinner.
The mistake, however, was criticizing or shunning people in the congregation who were in the workforce full time.. Now, they have the balls to ask these very same people for money!..👎🏻
I’m happily Retired and out.
what does everyone think will happen next on the back of the coronavirus pandemic?.
these are my suggestions;.
1) coronavirus will have a disproportionate effect on jw ‘growth’ countries like in south america and africa.
ANNA MARINA:
This is truly horrible and I think any JWs left have to almost be lobotomized to be sitting there tolerating this shit.
It has gone from intrusive to downright bullying from what it sounds like!
I cannot stress enough that I’m glad I got OUT of the Witness religion years ago.. I’m thankful I never listened to their teachings even back then or I would not be Retired today.
what does everyone think will happen next on the back of the coronavirus pandemic?.
these are my suggestions;.
1) coronavirus will have a disproportionate effect on jw ‘growth’ countries like in south america and africa.
ANNA MARINA:
So, they are preparing to..”put the screws on as many PIMOs/PIMIs as they can identify”?
Being as the religion in the last decade or so appears to have become more intrusive than they ever were (asking for $$, personal info on forms, telling people to install Zoom, etc.)..what in the world now? Are they going to hold people by their feet and shake them?
Regarding kicking more people out of bethel, I’m sure that was coming. As for trying to get people to take them into their homes!! (those that have their own homes) is another thing.
It is just as well I ‘faded’ years ago, because I would NEVER have tolerated the religion’s intrusiveness towards me - since I was viewed so negatively as a working woman.. I would definitely have had words with nervy elders who approached me looking for $$ or whatever..It all sounds like a nightmare.👎🏻
what do you think about this?.
https://abcn.ws/3bqn4tt.
RUB A DUB:
Yes, perfect sense. The fat people get fatter and the thin ones get thinner. I also noticed the people who are most out of shape are never in a gym 🤣.
what does everyone think will happen next on the back of the coronavirus pandemic?.
these are my suggestions;.
1) coronavirus will have a disproportionate effect on jw ‘growth’ countries like in south america and africa.
WT WIZARD:
The JW religion is already as intrusive as hell in all things, so financially it goes without saying! Too bad their members’ sensibilities have been so eroded they will agree to anything!
Certainly food would become more important than money if a famine were to occur. With regard to food and supplies, the religion has already become intrusive to their members - wanting lists of what people have in their cabinets at home!..If anybody were to ask ME such outrageous questions, they would be told in plain English that it’s none of their freakin’ business.
what does everyone think will happen next on the back of the coronavirus pandemic?.
these are my suggestions;.
1) coronavirus will have a disproportionate effect on jw ‘growth’ countries like in south america and africa.
FARMERJIM1:
You’ve got some good ideas.
No 5: is the most certain. A Recession definitely means less money...Not so sure about No. 9..They can make all the suggestions they want about how much $$ people should give..but people out-of-work aren’t giving them sh#t.
No 8: possibly a reduction in JW personnel (fewer COs); and No 10: more halls possibly will be sold maybe not all.
Nos. 2 & 3 are definitely possible. People may not want to physically go back to the meetings and actual field service as well. Some of these JWs were would-be faders anyway. Others might have been turned off by the intrusiveness of the Zoom meetings.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vwxeenkkoary-efyhnt75iqmagx0yywf.
f. w. franz "times in which we are particularly interested" may 11, 1975. ;introduced by kenneth a. little, a much younger man than now for sure.. the clip is 8 minutes.. unfortunately, some idiot recorded over part of this day many years ago.
i am hoping to find another copy in the box..
PHIZZY:
Others have also said that the JW religion is floundering because they have no one ‘special’ like FF to come up with ideas..
Possibly. But, I wonder if the world is a little too far along in Time with so much that has happened OR has not happened for this to ‘work’ again. I don’t think anybody..even an actual miracle worker.. is going to bring the JW religion back to its heyday.
Maybe other people are more open minded to the idea the JW religion can reform or have a revival..but I’m done with it.