this sort of thing ?
"jehovah's witnesses state that black lives matter, as all lives matter".
" jehovah's witnesses join black lives matter rally".
RESOLUTE BANDICOOT & PHOENIXRISING:
I can understand peaceful demonstrations and people being against police brutality - but my opinion of that group is that it seems more like a terrorist group..judging by all the destruction and violence (which will be downplayed and hidden by the liberal media).
There are many ex-JWs who believe in that group - if you read other forums.
i hear this from the leftist idiots all the time.
if someone breaks into your home 6 bullets are enough.
well if its a one of i would argue that i still my need more round for even just one person.
STANLIVEDEATH:
I really do wish you and people from elsewhere stop bashing the US!
I have heard every sort of remark over the years from Europeans or others..from condescending remarks about ‘class’ in addition to the current situation. Let’s not forget for one minute that MILLIONS of people in Europe have died because of war, genocide and violence just inside the last century!..Now Europe is a toilet because they have opened the floodgates to immigrants and has terrorism and every social problem imaginable!
The left-leaning rulers couldn’t care less if their own natural law abiding citizens are killed in violence and social unrest caused by these immigrants. The same leftist attitude prevails in the US where ball-less politicians allow criminals of every sort to do what they want.
This situation with Floyd has allowed the leftist elements in the country to jump in the fray and cause havoc. Even though there are many engaging in ‘peaceful’ protests (because Nobody should die in police custody- even a no-good criminal) ..these other people have jumped on the bandwagon and making this about another agenda. Meanwhile, they are responsible as far as I am concerned, for inciting ignorant people to violence, looting and destruction, vandalism of every sort even in cemeteries..Now drivers have to worry about bricks being thrown from an overpass onto vehicles. Just mindless mayhem. And this is supposedly about ‘justice’ for one guy??
As far as guns are concerned: guns do scare me and I don’t like violence. However, what the hell are people supposed to do if the police stand down and don’t protect them?? Do you actually expect them to lay down and die?
i agree with people who say all lives matter.
i think blm is a racist group.
if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..
MINIMUS:
Get rid of the police? Whoever says this deserves for the police NOT to come when they need them.
And just WHO would want to live in or be in this place where there are no police and no law and order?..Did the geniuses who said this think it out??
i started dating a coworker who is a divorced jw.
found out he was disfellowshipped, and he was trying to figure out how to make things work.
i am not a jw, and his family is not supportive of the relationship.
AMBERLOU:
It may hurt and be the hardest thing you do but stop seeing this person...Everything everybody has told you is true.
Somebody brought up in the Jehovah’s Witness religion knows nothing else. They are not like normal people who have dealings with everybody, the community, etc. If he wants a relationship with his family - which is normal - they will emotionally blackmail him into coming back to the religion/cult..You don’t understand the emotional entanglement.. He may not inherit money unless he goes back.
Where does this leave you? Not in a good place I assure you.
laws have been very quickly created in order to oppress & suppress uk citizens' basic freedoms and rights, while profiteering - thanks to the mantra of "supply & demand" - is allowed to flourish with nothing being done by the government to penalise companies who are more than likely reducing production of ppe in order to inflate their prices.
(oil companies have done likewise for years) .
"apart from actually finding the equipment, there are other problems.
QUETZAL:
Wow, another bumper crop of bethelites to be dumped!
This is really the worst possible time for this to happen to anybody.. At least those let go a decade or so ago had actual congregations and halls to go back TO..maybe a job?..Any bethelite looking on back then had to know this could happen to them..Now, the economy is totally shit with this Covid thing.
The Witnesses that are actually left in the congregations have been hit up for money left and right and I’m not sure they have another cent to be squeezed out of them. I’m sure there will be frantic appeals for anybody to open up their homes to a bethelite!..Imagine the nerve?
All this is the worst possible scenario and I am very glad I got out of Jehovah’s Witnesses years ago.
help me understand why i could not stop laughing watching this apparently serious video?.
https://youtu.be/xluj6cpznw4.
VANDERHOVEN:
It was very good and he’s honest. It seems he left over principles and not because he was the victim of any serious injustice (or at least I didn’t get that impression).
I too felt the Witness religion was all-consuming. I confess that I never did ALL the reading. I worked full time and just didn’t have time to do it all and I felt all these assignments were from people not in reality that other people had to work for a living!
He is also spot on about the control, brainwashing, hypocrisy and also fake friends as phony as fake nails. I found it interesting how they tried to get him to change his mind when he submitted his Disassociation letter. (They don’t want to lose a man if they can help it.).. But, I’m happy for him he is out - and, as he says: “he got his life back”. I remember the feeling!
hello, i am in the beginning stages of a slow fade.
over the years i have become more and more dissatisfied with the beliefs, teachings, and organizational practices of the organization.
i no longer have faith in it.
HUXLEY1979:
I am a twenty-year ‘Fader’.
When 9/11 happened, many inactive Witnesses went running back to the meetings. Not me though. I was in the early stages of ‘fading’ and just starting to feel somewhat normal like I felt before I made the mistake of getting involved with the JW religion. No way was I going back to that mental abuse.
Here we are now twenty years later in a world filled with different crises. I don’t feel compelled in the slightest to be around the Witnesses. You’re going to have to do a lot of research and learning about this religion so that you are not gripped with fear.
i'm a born and raised witness.
i was an elder for almost 20 years.
almost the same in fulltime service.
HUXLEY1979:
Welcome to the forum. There is a lot of good advice and you can pick and choose what works for you.
Every ‘Fader’s’ circumstances are different. The difficulties for each person depend on how entangled in the Witness religion they are AND if they have family in the religion.
Somebody such as myself who had no family there, no business entanglements and who was a working woman on the fringes of the congregation - had an easier Fade than somebody with family there, etc.
The end result after so many years is that I am ‘shunned’ (no loss to me). This is the same result other Faders will get. The difference is that I had No confrontation or drama - which is how I wanted it.
One thing I will say: it is important for you to carefully make some contacts/friends outside the religion beforehand, through job or whatever.
growing up in the 70's and 80's in the jw religion who remembers the massive stadium gigs the watchtower used to hold?.
we used to denounce false religion in the starkest of terms.
we were right and by god we were letting anyone who listened know it.
SEA BREEZE:
I agree with everybody’s comments but you are correct that the WT is utter ‘mind rape’. Very apt description.
I wasn’t born-in so I guess certain teachings weren’t so deeply rooted as others. I was able to shed the ‘paradise earth’ hope from my mind with not much trouble. Maybe I never entirely swallowed the whole thing. But getting rid of this carrot & stick belief was necessary when I started my ‘Fade’... I felt it was a cruel trick on my brain.
My general experience in the JW religion still did a number on my head that had lingering effects for years. Being treated like a typhoid Mary as a working single woman was appalling and what the hell did I need with that? I was probably held out as ‘you don’t want to be like her’!
But, I’m SO grateful that I stuck to my guns because I would not be Retired today if I had really listened to these Users.
i'm reading babylon the great has fallen, god's kingdom rules, published 1963. this was studied years ago when i was about 10-12 years old.
i wanted to just read some of the beliefs from decades ago.
my wife wants to know why i'm reading this book.
1234 & TRUTHBKNOWN:
Yes.
And how can anybody possibly believe the JW religion is ‘truth’ when somebody can be criticized or disfellowshipped for reading this religion’s old literature?
