i bought a pre-owned mercedes m class .
my second car.
and the day i drove it to the hall i was told by an elderrette that is a showy display and too much car.
FOOLEDNOMORE:
All this is just a reminder of unpleasant memories and that having dealings with Witnesses was an aggravation I certainly didn’t need and something that I would never again do in my life.👎
My experience in the religion was a hard lesson learned - with some close calls..Like Thank God I wasn’t stupider than I was.. I never paid heed to anything said there.
My observation: Anybody that puts themselves out for these people will learn that it is thankless and all for nothing.
i bought a pre-owned mercedes m class .
my second car.
and the day i drove it to the hall i was told by an elderrette that is a showy display and too much car.
HOSER:
In addition to somebody’s kid spilling something on your interior, what about somebody saying that when you turned a corner their neck ‘hurt’?
When a certain sister said this years ago I saw aggravation I didn’t need and told her I could bring her right back to the hall if she wanted..It wasn’t often but it was stressful the few times I had ‘friends’ in my car having to worry about their likes and dislikes. I vowed never again.
In this day and age in the world we live in, you’d have to be absolutely nuts having strangers in your car, in my opinion. I wonder if Witness FS is a thing of the past because of gas prices, etc.?
hello, i'm new here and have woken up to the real truth concerning the org.
i'm sort of fading away at the moment.... i need help with something, i used to as a child celebrate christmas and have always had amazing memories of it (my husband hasn't as he was born into the org) but i gave it up when i learnt the "truth".
my interest was only in pleasing god and still is.
SAMSIE:
Welcome to the forum.
I am somebody not raised a JW so my feelings about holidays are different from most people here. I associate my childhood and pre-JW life as a happy time. I am forever grateful that we celebrated Christmas. I love the smells of the tree and the wonderful smells of cooking and baking, the lights and colors, seeing relatives and the excitement of opening presents.
The Witnesses prevent people from celebrating holidays and claim it’s because they are ‘pagan’. Well, everything is pagan - from the days of the week to wedding rings. Nah, the REAL reason is they don’t want you associating with non-JW friends and relatives. They are afraid that if you experience unconditional love and friendship from people who aren’t judging you - you might not want the JW religion anymore!
It is all about isolating you from people not in the religion.
Of course I celebrate it now..When I left the JW religion the first thing I did was make contact with long lost relatives before it was too late. I am so happy I was able to do so.
i bought a pre-owned mercedes m class .
my second car.
and the day i drove it to the hall i was told by an elderrette that is a showy display and too much car.
Hi FOOLEDNOMORE:
This isn’t quite the same but similar:
Back in the day I needed another car because the one I had was on its way out. A nosey older sister piped up and said something about ‘not getting a two door’ I believe because of the ‘friends’ and FS… To which I replied: “If the religion is willing to make my car payments I’ll get any kind of car they want.”
how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.
my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.
he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.
HOSER:
Thanks. I actually have two JW friends who privately told me I did the right thing by looking out for myself. I have No regrets there.
As far as Witnesses with taker type personalities: you are right but I came to believe that even if these people weren’t ‘Users/Takers’ when they joined - they learned HOW to become very adept users because of the ‘culture’ there. It’s very shameful. It made me sad when some JWs I liked were ‘used’ by some of the snakes there.
The religion is really a hostile environment if you think about it. Can’t trust anybody, have to be guarded in what you say and do, etc.. I certainly don’t miss any of it.
how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.
my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.
he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.
HOSER:
I’m sure you are correct and oftentimes help might have an angle to it. But, the fact is that it IS help - to certain people.
I suffered from a double whammy when I was in the JW religion. I wasn’t just disliked because I had a full-time job. I wouldn’t do favors for the Users there. You don’t criticize me and THEN imagine I’m gonna do favors. It doesn’t work that way.
Some people there acted like I ‘owed’ somebody something. Don’t know how else to describe it. Whether it’s just a hatred of certain types of women and I wasn’t the 1950s Stepford type wife.
Nah, make no mistake about it. It is what it is. I had no illusions about anything there. Because I was subjected to the harshest type of treatment because I was a single working woman and ostracized because they couldn’t manipulate me, that’s why I feel the way I do about how brothers with businesses are going to have to help out all those JWs who never worked. Don’t even talk to me about them.
Isn’t it ironic that now it’s MY turn to run from the Witnesses.
how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.
my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.
he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.
RULES & REGULATIONS:
That’s very good of your brother and others to help out this former CO..I would never presume to tell somebody else not to give if they want to..However, I’m not interested.. Maybe you are still in the religion so you feel sorry.
All the JWs including circuit overseers knocked me for having my full-time job. They are responsible for people like me being ostracized in the congregation. SO, Let their ‘spiritual’ brothers help them out!! You know, the people they hobnobbed with..This religion and its policies has created too many problems for people.
You forget: If I had been so foolish as to give up my job back in the day, I would not be retired now…Do you IMAGINE for one minute that any brothers would be taking up collections for ME like they do for the former CO you mention??? Don’t make me laugh. If I was stupid enough to still be trapped in this religion, I’d be the last person alive there to get any kind of assistance from anybody. Nobody would feel sorry for me..Sorry, but my opinion on the matter is that brothers with businesses who were ‘buddies’ with types like him are going to have to help him and that’s the way it has to be. And that goes for all the other ‘needy’ types there who never worked and have their hands out.
how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.
my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.
he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.
how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.
my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.
he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.
THOMASMORE:
The fact that the religion knows that it creates a problem for people (according to the remark from the GB member you mention about ‘helping people find an exit door and place to land’) is one of the most sickening things I have heard!
So, they know full well that there is no place in the job market for people who are untrained - especially an older person. But, yet, they still are knocking higher education and careers. There is no forgiveness for these hypocrites.. As you mentioned, our years of ostracism in the congregation paid off with a reasonable retirement.
Now, the Witnesses are going around asking for money for those of them who never worked or only had a nodding acquaintance with the workforce..Meanwhile, I would run from these people.
A spotty work record means not much in SS benefits. Can you imagine? It’s hard to believe so many Witnesses checked their brains at the door and were all taken in by promises of Armageddon coming to save them that they took such a gamble!!
Even the Bible in Proverbs talks about the lowly Ant and how it stores up and saves! ..So, JWs ignored basic wisdom, threw common sense out the window and were all caught up in peer pressure and the fervor of ‘pioneering’..(Boy, do I hate that word) and I’m sure glad Today that I never followed the crowd back then.
okay, so here's a follow-up to my post a while back regarding the society tearing down the pyramid monument.
they cleared the area and this is what they did.
notice ... nothing about the watchtower connected to it, just slabs of cheap concrete..
THOMASMORE:
Yes, it’s true there is no loyalty to anybody there.
I always wondered if any of those people there you describe who are up in years think getting sent packing will never happen to them.. I do not envy anybody who is dependent on the JW religion for their room and board nowadays. Their situation sounds very precarious!
These people may also figure Armageddon or them passing away will solve the problem. But, when you think about it, being ‘kicked to the curb’ at that age would be a nightmare. What, if any, relatives would be left to take somebody in? This would be so cruel.
