Posts by LongHairGal

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10 years on and I’m still indoctrinated

by joe134cd in

this experience highlights the level of my indoctrination, after 10 years of been a pomo.

a few months back my gf was hinting to me about what we could do for my birthday.

to be honest i just had no idea, that i even had a birthday.

LongHairGal

MANDRAKE:

As with the OP, it’s all about what you knew. People also forget that what happens to us in our early childhood sticks with us.

I can relate to your mom because she was not raised a JW and when she left she just was able to resume her life before the Witness religion. That’s what I did as well. While celebrating birthdays isn’t a big deal for me and I can take it or leave it, I do like the holidays of Thanksgiving and Christmas because I associate them with happy times and non-JW relatives who were the only people who truly cared about me.. I am glad I realized this fact before it was too late 🕰 and that I was able to reconnect with everybody!

As ex-JWs it’s all about making yourself happy and comfortable navigating your way through the world and you can pick and choose what you want. You don’t necessarily have to get all interested in birthdays or holidays just because the religion forbade it. It’s perfectly okay. This would be like adopting a reckless lifestyle just because it’s directly opposite the values of the JWs and other religions.

Do what you are comfortable with.

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Dumb 'experiences' you were told as a JW

by BettyHumpter in

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this one stands out in my mind.

it was reported that 'a brother', unnamed of course, was out in field service and was set upon by a pack of vicious dogs.

he made it back to the car and was injured quite badly with his arms, hands and leg bleeding heavily.

LongHairGal

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

I always felt those convention experiences were either greatly exaggerated or totally made up by people who have no concept of what life is like in the Real world. 🤣

As somebody who actually worked full-time for a secular employer, I can tell you there would be No time to hold down a full-time job, commute, raise five children AND pioneer. There are only twenty four hours in each day and somebody can only physically be in one place at any given time, last I heard.

How could anybody possibly believe these stories?

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Shunning Disfellowshipped & Apostate family Members. Scriptural?

by objectivetruth in

anyone who is a witness or was previously a witness, is aware of the written & un-written rules concerning association with disfellowshipped family members.. there are a multitude of quotes through out the watchtower publications, but these 2 will suffice.. "are you proving yourself holy by not associating with family members or others who are disfellowshipped?

"the clear instruction in the bible is: avoid them.

that means that we have to stay away from them... the bible says that apostates are mentally diseased and that they use their teachings to make others think like them... what must we do to avoid false teachers?

LongHairGal

THOMASMORE:

I also believe that JWs like their disfellowshipping doctrine for the reasons you mention and more.

It is also true they shun people who aren’t disfellowshipped. I can attest to this because I had a full-time job at the time and I experienced this. (I’m ‘Faded’ over 21 years). As you said, they are ‘devouring’ each other and there is no stopping them. They really do push people out.. All this is interesting to observe.

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107 Year Old Horse Shit

by BettyHumpter in

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LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

I once had an elder admit to me that college educated brothers are harder to counsel.

So, from the get-go, this was all about keeping people in line. All the other bullshit about meeting bad associations and taking courses which will lessen people’s respect for the bible was just icing on the cake.

Never mind that people are forced to get a degree nowadays or they can’t get a job.

The religion doesn’t care if people can’t put food on the table or a roof over their head. Just as long as they are acceptably ignorant enough that they won’t ‘speak up’ about anything and remain passive while they are sitting there in the congregation.

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Do you pray?

by Fisherman in

i’ve always had a personal relationship with god that is not affected by any issues or controversies i have with anybody..

LongHairGal

BETTY HUMPTER:

My main reason for leaving was the 1995 Generation teaching. When that happened it was truly over.

The other ‘absurdities’ and the way I was treated in general just added to the whole pile of rubbish.

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Pursue Peace Assembly 2022 .. Joseph shares stories about his Bible days

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

pursue peace assembly 2022 shows a resurrected, newly shaven joseph, the son of jacob and rachel, having a nice dinner at a beautiful restaurant in the new system.

the survivors of armageddon all want to know if joseph can share stories about his life.. ''can you tell us what egypt was like?

what was pharaoh like?''.

LongHairGal

This is all just speculation on top of speculation. Trying to make themselves look as if they have a pipeline to the divine.

I think these are produced to give the rank & file Witnesses something to think and fantasize about. After all, many are disappointed that Covid wasn’t the End.

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Will the faithful slave now allow birthdays..........

by BoogerMan in

.....or ban jw sisters from using mascara??????

"the bible never refers to a servant of god celebrating a birthday.

this is not simply an oversight, for it does record two birthday celebrations by those not serving god.

LongHairGal

BOOGERMAN:

Yes, they used makeup in bible times as quoted in the scripture by ENOUGHIS-ENOUGH. This is not a bad scriptural reference and probably all the women then wore this to some degree. You even see this in some parts of the world now where women wear kohl.

Every now and then, some individuals make it sound like women with makeup are the downfall of the world.🙄 Depending on how adamant and zealous they are, it can sound unbalanced. I have to wonder what’s going on inside their heads and what ‘painted lady’ ruined their life. I’m surprised they aren’t picketing outside of drugstore chains and makeup and beauty supply shops.

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Could the WT org. Be in on the "great reset"?

by nowwhat? in

the org.

was all too willing to emphasize to the government - especially the left that they very obedient to the calls for mask, vaccine, and lockdown mandates.

those that know about the great reset know what i'm talking about.

LongHairGal

BETTY HUMPTER:

I don’t really come on the forum to see political posts, but I understand there should be a section where people can post political commentary.

I’ve been on the forum for years and I have to say the posts and threads with Trump Derangement Syndrome in the past were far more plentiful than the pro-Trump ones. Certain posters couldn’t post anymore which is good because they couldn’t resist slipping their TDS shit into anything and everything!

Even after the man left and with another president in office - people with TDS just couldn’t give it a rest..as we are now seeing. I’m sorry that you or anybody feels uncomfortable because some people have opposing views!

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The problem of questioning or the lack of politeness

by joao in

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a forum is a place where people should be able to talk to each other, to question, to have meaningful interactions with others in a polite and educated way, to contribute for the growth of one another.

it seems that, here, there are some people who think that the others know nothing.

they have all the facts, all the truth and have the disrespectful attitude of ignoring concrete and respectful questions.

LongHairGal

JOAO:

Why would you need to leave the forum just because a certain poster will not agree with you? Can’t you post on other topics (non-scriptural) or do they not interest you?

I confess that when I see these long-running threads (including massive cut & paste) 🙄 arguing about a particular scripture I don’t read them and never will. It’s hopeless. No offense to whatever zealot.. You do realize that theologians have been arguing about these things for centuries.

As for any JW who insists on believing and defending the beliefs of the religion no matter what anybody says, nothing you can do about it. Just move on.

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No pension no preparation for retirement

by Mikejw in

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a lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.

no children no money no home.

it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.

LongHairGal

FOOLEDNOMORE:

I agree, but unlike most people on here I was not born-in or raised in the Witness religion. I came in as a young working adult in the U.S.

The idea that I would be a deadbeat was foreign to me. Sadly, this mentality runs through the culture of the religion like threads in a fabric.

Up until now, many JWs who were born-in were not in reality about the world. (Not all, to be fair.) The worst of them have poor life skills and have an infantile view. They can’t manage money and imagine it grows on trees. Some are ignorant and don’t know how to live economically - eating out instead of cooking at home. Some may think they are owed charity by more responsible people in the hall.

Although back when I was in - my congregation(s) weren’t too bad and I was surrounded for the most part by comfortable suburban homeowners especially in the early days. No panhandlers then..It was later on I saw more deadbeat types.

Somebody like myself raised outside the religion wasn’t looking for somebody else to ‘take care of me’. That’s what getting a decent job and saving for the future was all about. I’m sorry the culture of Witnesses teaches otherwise. That’s TOO bad about them.