Posts by LongHairGal

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"Career Christians" ignore these Scriptures

by BoogerMan in

the apostle paul instructed christians regarding work and providing for oneself.

his bible standards and instructions are completely dismissed by everyone who's jumped on the christianity gravy-train:.

(acts 18:3) "and on account of being of the same trade he stayed at their home, and they worked, for they were tent makers by trade.

LongHairGal

A CLUE TO FIND THE USER:

You can say that again about how some pioneers (and certain others) do NOT want to work for a living. I have no pity.

Back when I was in the Witness religion, I was a single woman with a full-time job that I refused to quit to ‘pioneer and do housecleaning’.. I was criticized and hardly invited anywhere.. Pioneers my age scoffed at me.. They wouldn’t be caught dead in any full-time job. But, I figured they were entitled to do what they wanted…However, I made sure I never so much as gave them a dime.

In time, I retired.. I hope those pioneers who thought I was a joke back then..can pay their bills now. If not, they better make a list of their so-called ‘spiritual friends’ (you know: the ones who invited them to those secret gatherings)..and put them on speed-dial and Go ask them for help!

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a pet peeve of mine

by enoughisenough in

jw
friends

putting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.

it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.

there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.

LongHairGal

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

Not just ‘toothless lions’ but in some cases very ignorant men with biases against some people in the congregation.

Once I saw this, and that I was one of the people it was directed towards, I never accepted a shepherding call again and I never went near an elder again!

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Exes: Would You Rat On A Current JW?

by NotFormer in

it's an interesting thought.

if you are an ex jw, presumably dfed, and you see a current jw in good standing engaging in behaviour that would concern their elders, would you pass on that information to interested parties?

do accusations from exes and other outsiders carry any weight?

LongHairGal

No, I would never contact that religion about anything.

Rather, I agree with VIDQUN that going to the police would be the right thing to do if it is about the serious things he mentioned. But, to add, I would go to the police about theft as well.

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a pet peeve of mine

by enoughisenough in

jw
friends

putting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.

it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.

there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.

LongHairGal

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

I see what you’re saying but you are still missing the point about why these unflattering things started to be said about these trades people in the first place.

Witnesses with these jobs/trades made it a point to demean or shun other people in the congregation with college and/or white collar employment.. They made it sound as if they were morally superior or more ‘spiritual’ than these JWs with the college degrees, etc.

It became particularly touchy when these relatively uneducated JWs were counseling people who should really have been seeing professionals instead.. So the criticism and unflattering remarks about ‘window washers/janitors’ got started. Unfortunately, the label stuck and it offends some!.. But, don’t forget Witnesses with their stupid biases started it all.

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Disfellowshipped for Fornication

by TxNVSue2023 in

hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

LongHairGal

JHINE:

Sorry to deviate from the OP. But, it’s very true what you say about the ‘propensity of JWs to lie and gloss over the true nature of much of their teachings’ to potential members.

I can truly say this happened to me! And I probably never would have gotten involved if I knew the truth about it all.. I could have saved myself anguish.. Twenty+ years later I pulled myself out of this trap by ‘Fading’.. I’m just grateful I wasn’t totally ruined by my experience with the Witnesses .. I came out of it with some OCD. But, at least I kept my job until retirement.. Maybe I should thank my non-Witness upbringing(?)

But, what does all this say about the JW religion, in general, that they cannot be honest about anything??

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"Career Christians" ignore these Scriptures

by BoogerMan in

the apostle paul instructed christians regarding work and providing for oneself.

his bible standards and instructions are completely dismissed by everyone who's jumped on the christianity gravy-train:.

(acts 18:3) "and on account of being of the same trade he stayed at their home, and they worked, for they were tent makers by trade.

LongHairGal

BOOGER MAN:

’Career Christian’s’ aka ‘Pioneers’ as well as all the rest of the Witnesses would not want to highlight these scriptures which are the very opposite of the way they are trained!

In fact, it would not surprise me if at some point the religion rolls out a newer version of their bible that somehow alters or deletes these scriptures that condemn them or show them up as wrong!

As I have said many times, I was criticized for having a full-time job that I refused to quit to please these busybodies! Thankfully, I never listened or I wouldn’t have retired.

I’m ‘Faded’ many years but I understand the congregations today are filled with needy people who followed this bad advice (which goes against the very scriptures).. These JWs followed ‘commands of men’ there and reached retirement age broke in a religion that has No social programs to help them!

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Do the WTBTS & JW ORG speak in Jehovah's name?

by BoogerMan in

(deuteronomy 18:20,22) “‘if any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that i did not command him to speak...that prophet must die.

when the prophet speaks in the name of jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then jehovah did not speak that word.

the prophet spoke it presumptuously.

LongHairGal

BOOGER MAN:

I always said I wanted to know which of these guys in the Witness religion actually had God speak to them! The actual God? The one who spoke to Moses?

They shouldn’t be bashful. I would be honored to shake his or their hands! They would be worth meeting. Anybody this special that has God speaking to them deserves to be carried on a parade float like the Pope. Seriously.

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If JW is not the truth, then what is the true religion?

by TxNVSue2023 in

even though i'm disfellowshiped ( & i belive wrongfully so).

i still belive this is the truth.

i have been d'f for about 8 months now and working on reinstatement.

LongHairGal

MAGNUM:

Don’t you know the definition of ‘negativity’ according to Jehovah’s Witnesses?🤣

It is talking about real life important things in the world and/or mentioning anything bad or off about the religion and the people - no matter how true or widespread. I always felt I had to do a major number on my brain and be in DENIAL about anything and everything there. It’s all about lying to yourself and suppressing things.

I couldn’t do this.. Maybe SAMCATS and other JWs can.. Well, let them.

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Tony Morris replaced - by ANOTHER teleprompter reader!

by BoogerMan in

the whitewashing of tm111 from jw history continues - tending to confirm that he was booted.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghbhv6961a.

i'm pretty sure the cult got him to sign a nice nda - in exchange for a lifetime residency in the house bought by wt..

LongHairGal

TXNVSUE2023:

This is a sensitive subject to many people here. I am just a spectator who ‘Faded’ from the JW religion over 22 years ago.

I don’t know if AM3 was around at the time (who cares) but I wasn’t listening anyway when the GB, circuit overseers, elders or any busybody was telling me to quit my full-time job.. If I had listened, I wouldn’t be retired today.. This isn’t just about somebody’s imperfection: it’s about faulty teachings that ruined many lives. Stop telling people they should ‘get over it’. Are you going to support them?

Unfortunately, far TOO many other JWs listened to the faulty advice the religion gave them decades ago and are now at retirement age unprepared. (See poster above).

I don’t know your age category, but you sound young-ish and don’t have the foggiest idea what other older people have gone through there!

Yeah, I’m glad I ‘dealt with it all’ by getting the hell out of the religion.

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Do we blame the Governing Body too much?

by no-zombie in

i'd like to start this post with a part from the movie 'v for vendetta'.

here in a dystopian state, the main character named v, explains why things have gone so bad ....

those who do not want us to speak.

LongHairGal

NO-ZOMBIE:

No, I don’t think so.. Besides, don’t these people consider themselves to be the ultimate authority with unimpeachable supposedly bible-based ‘wisdom’?

TONUS OH:

I am sorry about your mom and other Witnesses who grew old (when they were told they wouldn’t). They waited for promises that were never fulfilled. Some of these older JWs might have lived a happy life in spite of waiting.. Maybe they had a good social life and lived comfortably.

But, other older JWs did not. Maybe they gave up decent jobs/careers and pioneered, never planning for retirement. They paid no attention to the clock on the wall as it was ticking away.

It is the ultimate sunk cost and your mom and others might not want to leave now.. This is why I am so glad I Faded’ over two decades ago!